Met talent? Are you kidding. Look at that 2001 team, the one following the world series. Zeille as the starting 1B, Payton, Agbayani and Perez the starting OF (that's Cubs esque), worthless Rey Ordonez at short. An already in decline Alfonzo. Kevin Appier, Glendon Rusch, Steve Trachsel, Bruce Chen. I think it's a miracle he got them to .500. He won 88, 88, 97 and 94 in his first 4 years, and that was with the pathetic Steve Phillips as GM. He never had a stud pitcher. His best position player was Piazza, whose best days were behind him. Ventura and Alfonzo were probably his 2nd and 3rd best position players while he was there. Valentine managed the pants off of Baker in the 2000 playoffs, watching it game by game was amazing to see how far ahead of Dusty he was. Dusty was getting guys up in the pen way too late, and Valentine exploited every bad move. You rarely see that in baseball.