Sammy Sofa

How dare he.

I really, really, really hate that he has that face.

Kyle Hendricks doesn't worry about a faceless peon like Baez knowing who he is.

La Stella IS a Pokemon.

Yankees forum: http://www.nyyfansforum.com/showthread.php/135684-2016-Trade-Deadline-Thread/page101 Many of them are still semi-convinced that the Cubs may trade Scwharber or Baez. Most, however, seem resigned to the shittiness of their FO/organization. Good for them.

Booooooo.

If I remember correctly (I was 11) we didn't pick up Brian Skinner. His Bulls career was the same as Andrew Bynum's, in that we had no intention of giving him a jersey. But, I guess this is just where you and I differ as NBA executives. I think it was a bad move. I would have kept Brand, hopefully drafted someone besides Eddy Curry with my #1 pick, and then tried to attract a free agent. Lets say Pax had taken over by that point. He definitely keeps Brand and probably drafts the safe, older player from established program, so either Richardson or Battier. Crawford Richardson Artest Brand Brad Miller Hoiberg! Probaly deals World Peace still at some point and probably doesnt bring back JC again when that time comes, but still some time for that. Still a pretty bad team, but not number 2 pick. 2002 isnt great for the experienced big time college players, but maybe we get Caron Butler in the mid-lotto JC Richardson Butler Brand Miller Bulls continue to make strides as a young core, but their lack of a true PG and two ball dominant young Gs is a clear bad fit, and they narrowly miss the playoffs. 2003 Pax falls in love with local Chicago kid Dwyane Wade. But he knows he must trade up to get him. Luckily Riley is eager for a quicker build and trades the number 7 pick to Chicago for Richardson. Chicago finally has pieces that fit and make the playoffs but suffers a first round exit. But then in July of 2004 after too much clashing of egos SHAQ becomes available and the Bulls trade Caron Butler, Elton Brand, and some random vet FA they signed a few years ago plus a future pick for SHAQ. Yadda yadda yadda Bulls build around Wade and Shaq while bringing on savvy vets like White Chocolate, win 2005 NBA finals. Wade throws sex parties, recruits the best basketball player in the world 4 years later, everyone hates Chicago. Lebron leaves us heartbroken and we sit here in 2016 trying to figure out where the Lebron and Wade relationships went wrong. NOW DO THE KOBE TRADE.

I'm going to move to your dumb city and fart all over it. you realize you can comfortably wear jeans basically 11 (if not 12) months out of the year here, you shorts hating goof? I already said I was wrong about the humidity, you nagging townie. I LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY.

Who gives a [expletive] about Des Moines? Sounds like a [expletive] hole. But I was wrong, Seattle: http://komonews.com/weather/scotts-weather-blog/seattle-really-one-of-the-most-humid-cities-in-the-us-you-bet-12-20-2015 Apparently they have a special type of humidity that doesn't suck. I just saw those humidity percentages on the weather reports and cringed. yeah, it's terrible. don't come here. btw this trade is awesome I'm going to move to your dumb city and fart all over it.

NEEDS TO BE MORE EMPHATIC: http://i.giphy.com/6OpusTwW1csaQ.gif

Same here. at least we were sort of right on one of them. also the weird thing is i have like no recollection of urlacher's rookie year at all. you'd think i'd remember something from a game, but my earliest specific urlacher memory is the fumble return against atlanta. Well, sure, 2001 was great. Granted, 2002 sucked just as much as 2000 for the Bears, but it's cooler to think Urlacher ushered in a season of awesomeness. I remember being like Cubbie Swagger towards Brand when the Bulls clashed with Curry over the heart issue. So, so pissed.

Same here.

um have you ever been here? Spend 5 minutes in Des Moines in July and then run a marathon in Seattle today and compare the sweat stains after each. Seattle is humid in the winter. It's dry in the summer. Who gives a horsefeathers about Des Moines? Sounds like a horsefeathers hole. But I was wrong, Seattle: http://komonews.com/weather/scotts-weather-blog/seattle-really-one-of-the-most-humid-cities-in-the-us-you-bet-12-20-2015 Apparently they have a special type of humidity that doesn't suck. I just saw those humidity percentages on the weather reports and cringed.

Not so fun fact... If Jay Williams weren't such an irresponsible idiot he'd have had a career and the Bulls would've had Wade much much sooner and maybe even a ring or two. Yeah, this one isn't the Bulls' fault, obviously, but it just was the terrible cherry on top of a bleak, bleak era.

Well, at the time they were in love with Curry: the High School Phenom, not the Curry we ended up seeing for most of his NBA career. I remember leading into the draft Curry was talked about along those lines; Brand wasn't a statue or anything, but he was kind a slab of beef out there speed and agility-wise.

Other fun fact: they were so bad after trading Brand that that lead to to the #2 pick in 2002, who was Jay Williams. Whoops.

Well, the big thing at the time was that they wanted to get "more athletic," and they loved Chandler and Curry along those lines. Basically they were making room for Curry, and pre-injuries Brand wasn't exactly the kind of guy anyone was going to call "athletic" a la the Bulls' plan. Either way, all the Clippers ended up doing with Brand is what the Bulls would have done with him; basically pay big money to a second or third option guy who basically would act as a Band-Aid on a head wound. I have zero confidence the Bulls at that time would have made the moves to actually maximize having him. Fun fact: Pao Gasol was still on the board when Chandler was picked.

Again, the Bulls were wretchedly horrible then; presumably the thinking was two players would go further to improving the team than one. They presumably also realized that based on how bad they were it was going to take some time to improve, and getting two players who would be cheaper longer than one player who was going to cost a ton sooner would give them more of an ability to rebuild the team, even if it was just an extra season or two. Picking up Chandler was a good move....picking up Brian Skinner was a terrible move. But the general move of trading Brand at that time, I see the reasoning.

TT clearly biased due to skinniness and today's beautiful weather: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Seattle+WA+USWA0395:1:US Poor sweaty Vogelbach.

No one cares about humidity when it's between 40 and 80 degrees 360 days a year. Fat man says FALSE.

Man, Seattle is humid as horsefeathers; humidity is NOT a fat man's friend.

I brought up Horace Grant because he and Brand aren't that far off in value, whether you compare 6 years, 8 years, or career. It was simply pointing out you were overvaluing Brand in bemoaning that the Bulls traded him. I agree, however, that the return could have been better, but the actual decision made sense.

For everyone that realizes that Vogelbach is a fat DH who has only shown power once he got to the Pacific Coast League, a big, youngish lefty arm that was once one of the top pitching prospects in baseball, that can flip back and forth from the pen and start maybe, with tons of years of control left... it's a nice return. Hell yeah. Really liking this move. Someone check on sulley.

I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand, Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things, The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed. And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains: round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, The lone and level sands stretch far away.

I'm looking at the rosters for those early 2000's Bulls teams and it's probably the closest I'll ever get to 'Nam flashbacks.