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  1. Sammy Sofa
    No, they remain not far off in value. The point that people have made is that ultimately you're overvaluing Brand's value/ability to drag up those terrible, terrible Bulls teams; they were THAT bad, and he simply wasn't good enough to drag up a stank-ass high enough, like we saw when he was with the Clippers. You're not going to find many people who think the parts in the trade itself were the right ones, but the decision to trade him at the time wasn't this terrible mistake. I'm assuming their logic was thinking that they were getting to improve in the longer run via two players instead of paying a ton for one, though Lord knows why they thought Brian Skinner would help anything.
  2. Sammy Sofa
    Eh, I don't think "before he suffered major injury" is arbitrary It is in terms of this hypothetical "what if the Bulls kept him" scenario. Plus Grant had a 7 of 8 season stretch of putting comparable value, but I can't count 2 of them because he had a down year? The dude put up a close enough value, both over a career and in a similar career stretch.
  3. Sammy Sofa
    Using arbitrary endpoints that vary for either player seems a bit...odd. Those 6 years are meaningless in terms of hypothesizing how long the Bulls would have had him, so why restrict it to that?
  4. Sammy Sofa
    didn't look like the tag was on the lead foot He had so much time to tag him he simply delicately laid it upon his foot.
  5. Sammy Sofa
    I don't understand the people questioning the lack of a challenge; he was obviously dead at the plate.
  6. Sammy Sofa
    They're in the box above. Here, I'll be helpful: Grant: ORtg: 117 DRtg: 104 PER: 16 OBPM: 0.7 DBPM: 1.8 BPM: 2.6 VORP: 44.4 Brand: ORtg: 110 DRtg: 104 PER: 20.5 OBPM: 1.3 DBPM: 1.8 BPM: 3.1 VORP: 45.2 Value-wise, these are very similar players. Brand is technically better, obviously, but not significantly so, and certainly not the point that he's someone you'd anchor a team with.
  7. Sammy Sofa
    Gotta be a drinking problem.
  8. Sammy Sofa
    VORP, PER, the PM stats, WS and ORtg and DRtg are the ones I typically zero in on.
  9. Sammy Sofa
    God, you're the worst.
  10. Sammy Sofa
    Aw, I thought that was gonna drop in.
  11. Sammy Sofa
    Addison is so dreamy.
  12. Sammy Sofa
    Very crafty, KB.
  13. Sammy Sofa
    I think Zobrist is dying.
  14. Sammy Sofa
    Whaaa? These jerseys are fantastic. they could be worse, but they are bad So many crazy posts from you lately. I'm worried about you, man.
  15. Sammy Sofa
    I don't know who haubrich91 is, but sorry, homie.
  16. Sammy Sofa
    Is he racist enough? That's my litmus test. Hates Heyward, loves Lackey.
  17. Sammy Sofa
    That's kind of an odd comparison. In Horace's best scoring season, he was still 10 points shy of Elton's best season, and significantly shy of even an average season for Elton. I know Horace was playing alongside prolific scorers, but they weren't very similar players. Kinda hard to compare value. It's not hard to compare, but you've already stated you don't bother looking at any kind of advanced basketball stats, so here we are. I would encourage you to peruse the very delightful Basketball Reference when you have the time. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantho01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brandel01.html
  18. Sammy Sofa
    Fred's list is a bit out of date. I updated it (and will keep it updated until he returns) on the second page of that thread. Nice.
  19. Sammy Sofa
    I kinda hated him when he got carried off by the Magic when they beat us in 95. I remember that particular moment really stinging, especially with Jordan being back, but I was always torn on the Magic; I couldn't help but love Shaq and Penny, and Horace being there made me like them even more. I definitely remember being worried they were going to become the Bulls' big nemesis with that talent, but fortunately things worked out like it did. Plus that moment with Grant being carried off must have been one of the main things that drove the Bulls, and especially Jordan, to be so dominant the next year.
  20. Sammy Sofa
    Yeah, FG already has him worth about $11 million, for what that's worth.
  21. Sammy Sofa
    If THAT miraculously happens...
  22. Sammy Sofa
    Hot damn; I did not know Jerian Grant was related to him. That's cool. I always liked Horace, and was bummed as a kid when he got signed away by the Magic.
  23. Sammy Sofa
    "Star player." Elton Brand was basically Horace Grant in terms of value; that's a very, very good player to have if you've got a decent or better team, but those Bulls teams were wretched, and they knew it. As we saw when he want to the Clippers, Brand, despite his talent, wasn't good enough to be someone to really anchor a team or be THE guy. The Bulls keeping him wouldn't have made much of a difference. Speaking of Horace, I had no idea the Bulls FO hired him this past April.
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    http://i.giphy.com/zNbiX43QsqUAU.gif
  25. Sammy Sofa
    I thought it was someone else's turn based on Fred's list. Either way, early gam and no gam thread with just over 6 hours to go, so I took decisive action.
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