And come on, if we're getting into the "scumbag" territory, must we even delve into the mess that is Cobb? Or the ugly and inexcusable racism of guys like Cap Anson? What about the guys that joke about pitching a game supposedly high on any number of drugs? Yes, I know this is different than getting caught betting or fixing games, but again, I think it should be up to baseball to punish these people in terms of whether or not they can play the game, not whether or not they end up in the Hall simply because keeping them out is essentially acting like they didn't exist at all, good or bad.