Sammy Sofa

Didn't Sosa also bulk up at a younger age than a lot of these guys? Like, when it would be more natural to do so. I'm just baffled that he's gotten off clean. I've heard that Sosa spent more time in the gym than any other player.

Did you guys hear the weird Russian-sounding audio feed that cut in for like 30 seconds on the ESPN broadcast?

Probably imflamed from funky injections.

I saw that. Wood was injured in 99 though, right? So I don't think he'd be one of those guys. Farnsworth? Jose Hernandez? Benito Santiago? GlenAllen Hill? Sosa? Well, he talks about players sharing an apartment, so it would likely be younger/"poorer" players.

I swear to God I just heard Mitchell try and compare what's going on in baseball with the Northern Ireland situation. Just go away.

Agreed. Exactly. This is what a lot of us have been saying.

Or was just smart enough to not use a personal check. And for baseball players, the probably qualifies as genius. Exactly. Remember the level we're talking about here, and how Sammy seems like not the brightest guy around, yet he leaves no trail. I must give him kudos for keeping his operation TIGHT.

Sammy Sosa is some kind of freakin' evil genius mastermind living in his island lair.

RICKY BONES, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I love it when people throw out statements like that with absolutely no proof to back it up. There's just as much non-proof that they didn't use any of the "helpers" of their respective eras.

HAWT. This makes it sound like these guys shared the same needle, which would be the only thing I do not approve of in this quoted staement.

MY GOD. THIS IS THE DAY AMERICA'S INNOCENCE DIED.

Nope. They didn't look into amphetamines, which just makes the list more of a joke.

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user. Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report. It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision. Then why re-sign Wood? Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag. I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor. Ding, Ding, Ding. So if he had taken a price cut and stayed, suddenly it doesn't matter?

Bottomhole :evil: :evil: Easy there.

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user. Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report. It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision. Then why re-sign Wood?

Nope.

In short, it's a diversionary witch hunt to make the public ignore how the MLB is dragging its feet and doing jack squat to actually be proactive with this and attempt to clean up the game. It's much easier to point at stuff that already happened and nobody can do anything about and go "SHAAAAAAAAAAAAME" as opposed to actually trying to crack down in the here and now. I think we'll see that the cracking down on the here and now will be difficult. I've said before, the Olympics have very stringent testing and harsh penalties, yet PED use is rampant in that sport. Yeah, tha's kind of what I was going for. The league is "dragging its feet" because they know they can't actually clean everything up like people expect, hence reports like this that actually do nothing.

In short, it's a diversionary witch hunt to make the public ignore how the MLB is dragging its feet and doing jack squat to actually be proactive with this and attempt to clean up the game. It's much easier to point at stuff that already happened and nobody can do anything about and go "SHAAAAAAAAAAAAME" as opposed to actually trying to crack down in the here and now.

Well, now I completely understand why he's leaving.

Such as? (Besides the "employee" quote, which seems to be almost all that anyone brings up)

That situation is by far the exception to the rule, not the norm. By your standards, baseball is mostly populated by "non-men" who don't take less money because they've been hurt. How is he sabotaging them? You have ridiculous man-love for Prior. Are you his Physical Therapist, or something? I just think the vitriol and hyperbole directed at him is beyond ridiculous. But the euphoric man-love and expected return to the dominance of his career year are somehow less ridiculous? I mean, people are talking about killing animals over this decision. Yeah, that's warranted. I don't know why you expect me to say about those people. The vast majority of the "pro-Prior" posts during all of this have been in regards to the likelyhood of him being able to rebound and perform and the projected monetary costs and how this reflects on the market and the teams needs and resources and alternatives. If you feel that this isn't true and that "euphoric man-love" is actually the most common theme instead, please feel free to show us. I simply have not seen that to generally be the case with only VERY few exceptions to the contrary. The anti-Prior posts, on the other hand, have almost all jumped on him for being "selfish" or "soft" or "weak" and as if he wanted to be paid for not pitching. Yes, there have been some that focused mostly on the economic effects, but most of them jump right to hysterical levels of insulting and emotion that far surpasses any "euphoric man-love." I'm also not sure where you're seeing many people convinced that he would be likely to return to his earlier "dominance." It sounds that most people who wanted him back probably felt that he could still be an effective starter at some point, but that's not the same as assuming he'll be as good as he was at his peak.

That situation is by far the exception to the rule, not the norm. By your standards, baseball is mostly populated by "non-men" who don't take less money because they've been hurt. How is he sabotaging them? You have ridiculous man-love for Prior. Are you his Physical Therapist, or something? I just think the vitriol and hyperbole directed at him is beyond ridiculous.

That situation is by far the exception to the rule, not the norm. By your standards, baseball is mostly populated by "non-men" who don't take less money because they've been hurt. How is he sabotaging them?

The comments that everyone focuses on all came relatively recently. It would appear that the situation between him and the organization came to a head during the last season. There's little evidence that things were seriously hostile or ugly before that, so it's a little unfair to try and stretch his comments after spring training this year back over the last few years. That said, comments like the ones that I bolded make no sense whatsoever when they're stated like they're obviously true.