Sammy Sofa
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Of course. Obviously the lack of championship is going to knock him down a peg, but it's not like he's be in terrible company never having won a title. Ewing, Barkley, Wilkins, Iverson, Baylor, Maravich, Miller, Stockton, Malone...who is really going to knock any of these guys as not being some of the very greatest of all time? That'd be pretty terrible company for Lebron all things considered. Why? Those are some of the very greatest players of all time.
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Statistical analysis is far more applicable to baseball than any other sport. True, but you're taking a pretty night/day approach between the two by effectively suggesting that any talk of LeBron being the GOAT down the line is based on statistical smoke and mirrors.
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Yes, nobody can compare one player to another player until both player's careers are done. If you're building a case for GOAT, it's kind of difficult to make that call when one of the players hasn't had half the time of the other to establish a legacy, isn't it? But nobody here is really building him up as the GOAT right now. It's more a "wow, this guy has a real chance to be the GOAT when all is said and done...and there's a lot of meatball arguments out there acting like this is impossible hearsay."
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Of course. Obviously the lack of championship is going to knock him down a peg, but it's not like he's be in terrible company never having won a title. Ewing, Barkley, Wilkins, Iverson, Baylor, Maravich, Miller, Stockton, Malone...who is really going to knock any of these guys as not being some of the very greatest of all time?
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The Mavs are in it because they're a good team lead by an amazing player. Teams were "in it" against Jordan, too, so I'm not exactly sure why the Mavs making it a series would be such damning evidence against LeBron's ability. My point is that a player that can be considered the best by far in basketball should win this series with that supporting cast. If the Heat win and LeBron dominates game 6 and 7, then I rescind some but not all of my comments. This is an asinine approach. So if they lose it this year but then win it next year in commanding fashion with LeBron kicking ass everything changes? Really? It comes down to that small a sample size with you? Don't worry. I doubt it happens. I can't recall seeing you in the Cubs game threads much; does this "stats are deceiving, sample size uber alles" translate over there, too?
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Because of his per game averages of 27.7 (regular season and 28.2 (playoffs)??? While having similar TS% and eFG as St. Michael? Gasp...you are comparing LeBron James to Michael in terms of scoring?! Blasphemy! Yes, LeBron puts up gaudy stats. We've all seen them. He's fantasy basketball king. But in real basketball, King James is playing with another top 5 player, a top 20 player, and a pretty damn good supporting cast. And he is losing in the finals while having scored 2 pathetic points in the fourth quarter the last 2 games when his team needed points the most. You would've thought he'd have won something by now playing his entire career with such talent while putting up those stats. There's always an excuse for LeBron not winning, because he puts up those stats. The stats people will always assume that its not his fault. This might have worked with Cleveland, but it's over now. No more excuses like that. Of course, I'm sure LeBron supporters will continue to find blame in the supporting cast because the stats say he's the best ever. Since its been tough to blame Wade, Bosh, Miller, Chalmers and Bibby lately, then maybe they'll blame Ilgauskas and Howard the finals loss. By the way, I have nothing against math. I use statistics a lot in what I do for a living. But I feel that stats can be misleading and are overused. So what was Jordan's excuse?
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Yes, nobody can compare one player to another player until both player's careers are done.
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Exactly right. Unfortunately, Jordan hero worship and the fact that he's become so unlikable has spawned the worst case of moving target, meatheaded sports arguments I've ever seen. Pretty much. I can't stand the guy, but most of the arguments against him here are beyond meatball.
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The Mavs are in it because they're a good team lead by an amazing player. Teams were "in it" against Jordan, too, so I'm not exactly sure why the Mavs making it a series would be such damning evidence against LeBron's ability. My point is that a player that can be considered the best by far in basketball should win this series with that supporting cast. If the Heat win and LeBron dominates game 6 and 7, then I rescind some but not all of my comments. This is an asinine approach. So if they lose it this year but then win it next year in commanding fashion with LeBron kicking ass everything changes? Really? It comes down to that small a sample size with you?
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Because of his per game averages of 27.7 (regular season and 28.2 (playoffs)??? While having similar TS% and eFG as St. Michael? Gasp...you are comparing LeBron James to Michael in terms of scoring?! Blasphemy! Yes, LeBron puts up gaudy stats. We've all seen them. He's fantasy basketball king. But in real basketball, King James is playing with another top 5 player, a top 20 player, and a pretty damn good supporting cast. And he is losing in the finals while having scored 2 pathetic points in the fourth quarter the last 2 games when his team needed points the most. You would've thought he'd have won something by now playing his entire career with such talent while putting up those stats. And if he doesn't win it this year then that's the cutoff. One year with Wade & Bosh, that's it, everything afterwards doesn't count. Jordan was able to get it done instantly with Pippen and Grant and Paxson. BASKETBALL LORE HAS SPOKEN.
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It was never time to compare him to Jordan. Thankfully it never will be. Don't be ridiculous. He's only 26, and there's been an abundance of reasons to compare him to Jordan since he showed up in the NBA. He is THAT elite.
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Are you really saying that Jordan NEVER had a bad 4th quarter in ANY "big game?" Just wanted to specify, because that's a helluva lot different than focusing only on Jordan's Finals performances. I was bored earlier today and if you ranked all of Lebron and Jordan's Finals games by "game score" (not that I know what that means but it's some reductive number) from highest to lowest Lebron would hold 5 of the 7 lowest spots. Of course Lebron had played a total of 8 Finals games compared to Jordan's 35. Yeah, there's no doubt as it stands right now that Jordan is the better Finals performer by far. I was just a bit taken back by someone now declaring that apparently Jordan never had a bad 4th quarter in ANY "big game" he played in.
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Are you really saying that Jordan NEVER had a bad 4th quarter in ANY "big game?" Just wanted to specify, because that's a helluva lot different than focusing only on Jordan's Finals performances.
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The Mavs are in it because they're a good team lead by an amazing player. Teams were "in it" against Jordan, too, so I'm not exactly sure why the Mavs making it a series would be such damning evidence against LeBron's ability.
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That one to Polanco also looked kind of flat - it was actually a pretty good pitch to hit. Yeah, small sample size, but guys seem to be making more good contact with his pitches recently. But hey, Cubs win! Dare we dream of finally seeing the much vaunted winning streak tomorrow? Of course it'll happen against the best rotation in baseball, just to mess with us. -
Man, he's hanging these things lately.
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Lock it down, Marmol.
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The [expletive] I am. Don't lump us all in with those Fecal League hacks.
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Soto! Colvin! Ye gads!
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Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Because maybe, the fact that every other 3B in the league is having a very down season is at least a partial explanation for why Aramis has had a down season. You can't ignore a league-wide pratfall in offense and just look at one player's year over year numbers and declare "he declined!". Yes, but it's likely not something specific to 3B. I think what you're saying is that offense in general is down, but it's just more pronounced (for a number of reasons) at 3B, right? Of course, it's league-wide, independent of position. I used his position because it's a lot easier to contextualize 7th of 17 eligible 3B than it is 65th of 204 eligible position players or whatever he is, and because the whole discussion is about either keeping Aramis or replacing him with one of his peers. Right. Just want to make sure it's clear enough for Mr. arm2. -
Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Because maybe, the fact that every other 3B in the league is having a very down season is at least a partial explanation for why Aramis has had a down season. You can't ignore a league-wide pratfall in offense and just look at one player's year over year numbers and declare "he declined!". Yes, but it's likely not something specific to 3B. I think what you're saying is that offense in general is down, but it's just more pronounced (for a number of reasons) at 3B, right? -
Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Because the tract of the discussion was revolving around what Aramis could potentially command if he had a dramatic rebound that ended up with him OPSing over .850. The performance of other people at the position he plays is going to influence how much he'll be able to make next season as a FA. Nobody's saying that there's something exclusive to 3B dragging them down; plenty of teams will look at their options and just assume it was a fluke, but others are going to look at someone like the hypothetically OPSing .850+ Aramis as their best option to improve the position. I don't know why you think that the performance of other people playing the same position wouldn't impact how much money he'd make as a FA if he rebounded that dramatically. -
Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Everyone else will get better. Who knows about Aramis. Are you serious Clark? Of course. Leaguewide numbers for 3Bs are extremely likely to revert toward the mean (i.e., get better). There's nothing specific to being a 3B that's causing a precipitous drop in offensive production (relative to history). The whole notion is preposterous, frankly. Who knows what Aramis' hitting problem is. But it isn't that he stands nearest to 3B when the team is in the field. Wait, you honestly think anyone is arguing that? -
Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
In that specific role, sure. But as a whole he's been pretty middle of the pack, as TT pointed out. "Godawful" is pretty melodramatic, especially since we actually saw what a "godawful" Aramis looks like just last year. -
Aramis will not waive no trade clause
Sammy Sofa replied to Men in Blue's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I have no doubt someone will throw $10 mil at him, I meant is it worth it to us. IMO the money would be better spent elsewhere. Probably. I'd have little problem with a combo of Baker/DeWitt over there as a stopgap instead of likely overpaying for Aramis.
