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  1. Sammy Sofa
    How do you know he "got 200 homers due to PED's?"
  2. Sammy Sofa
    So then you have a theory as to how many more he hit because of them? Outside of his one crazy season, bonds managed to tack on about 7-10 from his best pre-usage power seasons, and he was one of the greatest hitters of all time. Shaving off about 10 home runs from each of McGwire's big power/full/full-ish/around 100 games played seasons still has him around 450 home runs for his career. You're really saying that the guy hit most of the home runs in his career simply because of PEDs?
  3. Sammy Sofa
    Yes, Josh Vitters.
  4. Sammy Sofa
    He helped start the 80's-mid 2000 steroid era in Oakland. We'll never know how many home runs he would have hit. He was dirty early on. He was a home run-hitting beast from high school on: http://www.mcgwire.com/stats.html A lot of people were So your theory is that Mark McGwire was on PEDs most of his life and only hit home runs because of them.
  5. Sammy Sofa
    Sosa just barely beats out Mike Piazza for 10th in most WAR accrued during the years of Sosa's career, even when excluding his disastrous 2005 & 2007. He hit a bunch of home runs and became very popular. Don't confuse that with actually being a consistently great baseball player. Where does his WAR line up with Piazza's when Sosa was on roids? Point is Sosa only has HOF stats due to roids. He became once in a generation directly due to them. How do you know this? You keep throwing it out there like you know for sure how many home runs he hit with and without them. AND HE WASN'T A ONCE IN A GENERATION TALENT. STOP SAYING THAT.
  6. Sammy Sofa
    He helped start the 80's-mid 2000 steroid era in Oakland. We'll never know how many home runs he would have hit. He was dirty early on. He was a home run-hitting beast from high school on: http://www.mcgwire.com/stats.html
  7. Sammy Sofa
    You're on a very slippery slope when you're using examples of past players who almost certainly were using greenies like they were candy. Greenies at the very least. PEDs as we know them have basically existed since WW2, and really took off in sports in the 60's. That people willfully act like PEDs outside of speed weren't around prior to the late 80's are just flat out wrong.
  8. Sammy Sofa
    He helped start the 80's-mid 2000 steroid era in Oakland. We'll never know how many home runs he would have hit. He was dirty early on. What kind of player was Sosa before roids? Occasional All Star? Now he has all time great stats, far above HOF stats and once in a generation player. But yeah they don't do much. I mean he has to swing the bat right? Sosa doesn't have all-time great stats outside of his home run numbers. And again, you don't know when Sosa started using. As TT pointed out, Sosa doesn't have "once in a generation" numbers. Like a lot of these guys, he had one insane year where he had a 10+ WAR and then a lot of good to very good seasons. Unless you think home runs alone make a player amazing, your argument broken from the get-go.
  9. Sammy Sofa
    Hank Aaron used [expletive] PEDs. Regularly. Dude, everyone knows steroids were totally invented in 1993 and NOBODY EVER USED ANYTHING BEFORE THAT EVER.
  10. Sammy Sofa
    They sure didn't think it when it was going on and nobody said anything. Everyone loved it at the time. And it's not all that unlikely that Aaron was using, too.
  11. Sammy Sofa
    And McGwire was a freak who was going to hit a bajillion home runs regardless of what he used.
  12. Sammy Sofa
    Tell that to Bonds who only became once in a generation after he took them. PED's made multiple once in a generation players (Bonds, Sosa, ARod). None of those guys would have been that good without them. Bonds and ARod were going to be clean HOFers, but we'll never know for sure. Oh my. This is delicious. Bonds' line through 1998: .290 .411 .556 .966 164 OPS+ 411 HR 99.6 WAR Yeah, I think we know for sure. I think Bonds is a tough example to use because he was so good all around and would have obviously been a sure fire HOFer without the cream and the clear. But you certainly can't deny he wouldn't have ever become even a 50 HR guy without them. He only hit 50 or more HR in a single season once in his entire career. Next highest? 46, in 1993; well before 1999.
  13. Sammy Sofa
    Tell that to Bonds who only became once in a generation after he took them. PED's made multiple once in a generation players (Bonds, Sosa, ARod). None of those guys would have been that good without them. Holy smokes are you comically wrong about this. What's comical are the number of home runs that Bonds and Sosa hit right when they began taking PED's. The frequency of their homers is directly caused by taking them. You have no idea when Sosa started using PEDs. We do, however, know when Bonds started; after that year he had an insane season where he hit 73. His other near-full PED years? 49, 46, 45, 45. Some other Bonds' HR totals pre-1999? 33, 34, 46, 37, 33, 42, 40, 37.
  14. Sammy Sofa
    Tell that to Bonds who only became once in a generation after he took them. PED's made multiple once in a generation players (Bonds, Sosa, ARod). None of those guys would have been that good without them. Holy smokes are you comically wrong about this. No he's not. All of those guys would have been really good players but none of them, especially Bonds and his comically ridiculous seasons, would have put up anywhere near the numbers they did. I mean seriously, go look at the post in another thread talking about Rich Aurilia hitting 37 HRs and the top 9 guys in the MVP voting averaging 49 HRs. No, he really is wrong. Bonds pretty definitively did not start using until after the 1998 season. His numbers up through that season are amazing. And pointing to guys like Aurilia is using a terrible example since he basically had one insane outlier season and was pretty unremarkable the rest of his year.
  15. Sammy Sofa
    Wilson, seriously, go look up A-Rod's numbers, too. If you can tell me with a straight face that you can attribute that mostly to PEDs then you have AMAZING self control.
  16. Sammy Sofa
    Tell that to Bonds who only became once in a generation after he took them. PED's made multiple once in a generation players (Bonds, Sosa, ARod). None of those guys would have been that good without them. Bonds and ARod were going to be clean HOFers, but we'll never know for sure. Oh my. This is delicious. Bonds' line through 1998: .290 .411 .556 .966 164 OPS+ 411 HR 99.6 WAR Yeah, I think we know for sure.
  17. Sammy Sofa
    Rondon Fan is, like, angry at numbers and stuff.
  18. Sammy Sofa
    It was a wonderful time.
  19. Sammy Sofa
    Hrm burp ha that's totally the same thing as amazingly making a player good.
  20. Sammy Sofa
    PED's don't magically make players good or great. It's like some people see the relative few that used them to Hulk the [expletive] out as meaning having big muscles suddenly makes you an amazing hitter.
  21. Sammy Sofa
    Please explain why you thought this made sense.
  22. Sammy Sofa
    They don't work like that, but it's adorable that you think they do.
  23. Sammy Sofa
    Is thread eating posts or something?
  24. Sammy Sofa
    Right. As they did this year you can sign guys that you can sell if needed (and if they succeed), but also have for more than one year if the team does better than expected/hoped.
  25. Sammy Sofa
    Barry Rozner's axe to grind with Ramirez is worse than anything we've seen with Kaplan. Guy is a [expletive] clown and a half. Rozner still never misses a chance to slam him on that stupid weekend radio show of his.
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