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  1. Sammy Sofa
    So you don't have a problem with "cheating" as long as the "cheating" doesn't help too much. He must love corked bats.
  2. Sammy Sofa
    No, those are the ones around the stadium. The ones in the dugout are the big ol' hoopty-looking ones from public schools painted green, and they've been beaten to [expletive] by bats and helmets and the like.
  3. Sammy Sofa
    Is that even a 10 foot rim? Unless part of Rose's ACL surgery was to put 4 ft. extensions in his knees
  4. Sammy Sofa
    Someone ring the gong for Wilson.
  5. Sammy Sofa
    STEROIDS! Existing in anabolic form since 1931, but only making dudes unacceptably swole from whenever the hell Wilson decides and only certain dudes and only certain levels of swole you know the one.
  6. Sammy Sofa
    Um yeah that's what roids do. Sometimes. Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002. That was HGH. Steroids don't make your head big. Horsey Growth Hormones?
  7. Sammy Sofa
    Um yeah that's what roids do. Sometimes. Horse steroids do. What year did Bonds's head get big. That was the year I thought he started. Maybe before 2002. It's pretty well documented that he started taking them after the 1998 season because he was pissed Sosa and McGwire were getting all the attention when he thought he was a far superior player to them. He started juicing out of his mind at that point and turned into the incredible Hulk. That's just like the 800th thing mentioned in this thread that he could easily look up, yet seems to refuse to do so.
  8. Sammy Sofa
    As opposed to previous eras of PED usage, which were just fine.
  9. Sammy Sofa
    Um yeah that's what roids do. People noticed it. Everyone saw Bonds in 2002. He was a different person. Do you think Sosa was on roids in 1998? Bonds hit 73 HR in 2001. Dude, he was HUGE! Hank was only a little bit bigger.
  10. Sammy Sofa
    Um yeah that's what roids do. Sometimes.
  11. Sammy Sofa
    So the only real evidence for you is whether a guy "got huge." Stellar detective skills.
  12. Sammy Sofa
    Remember, MLB conducted it's first "real" test for PEDs in 2003. Curious to see what counts as "real evidence" for you.
  13. Sammy Sofa
    So you shouldn't doubt any performance prior to 2002. I don't. He had HOF numbers/trajectory pre. 2002. So you have no issue with Sosa's numbers pre-2002.
  14. Sammy Sofa
    A good ol' fashioned dogpile is good for the board and good for the soul.
  15. Sammy Sofa
    Because you're approaching this with all the critical thinking ability of a child.
  16. Sammy Sofa
    So you shouldn't doubt any performance prior to 2002.
  17. Sammy Sofa
    We have the physical evidence on Bonds, not Aaron. I give people the benefit of the doubt. Same for Pujols. You have no "physical evidence" because nobody was looking and testing, yet you've had people in the game talk about how PED usage goes back decades. Of course. But has anyone accused Aaron and seen him take them? No, so I give him the benefit. We know ARod took them. I'm not keeping anyone out of the HOF with no evidence, steroid era or not. You've had people on the same team as him who admitted to using them: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-05-03-steroids-house_x.htm You have him having a bizarre, late career power surge, plus two teammates also having outlier power surge seasons when they played with him: http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2007/02/hammerin_hank_a.html Basically it wouldn't be a surprise at all to find out he used them. But nobody is going to come out and accuse him of it because even if they were right there there's absolutely no proof. They'd be instantly made a villain and would have no argument but their word.
  18. Sammy Sofa
    We have the physical evidence on Bonds, not Aaron. I give people the benefit of the doubt. Same for Pujols. You have no "physical evidence" because nobody was looking and testing, yet you've had people in the game talk about how PED usage goes back decades.
  19. Sammy Sofa
    How do you know who was clean and when?
  20. Sammy Sofa
    Wow, he said he only took them once?!? There's no possible reason why he'd lie about using PEDs! And old players with power surges: all on the juice except for Hank Aaron. Why? JUST BECAUSE, DAMMIT.
  21. Sammy Sofa
    Yes, when he's the most expensive he's ever been and coming off of arguably his worst season since 2006. What a trade chip!
  22. Sammy Sofa
    How do you not know? Look at the numbers.
  23. Sammy Sofa
    And Bonds's last 3-5 were his best weren't they? This wasn't just about longevity. He had his best years or at least close to it at the end. This wasn't about extending his career while putting up similar or slightly worse numbers. He had all time years. Yes, he had his best seasons post-1998: 11.9 WAR in 2009, 11.8 in 2002 and 10.6 in 2004. But he still had amazing years prior to 1999: 8.0, 9.7, 7.9, 9.0, 9.9, 7.5, 9.7, 8.1, 8.1. Nobody is arguing that that he didn't benefit from using; the issue is with your idea is that he wasn't a fantastic player before he was using. You subtract his entire career from 199 onward and he is still a phenomenal "once in a generation" talent.
  24. Sammy Sofa
    So then you have a theory as to how many more he hit because of them? Outside of his one crazy season, bonds managed to tack on about 7-10 from his best pre-usage power seasons, and he was one of the greatest hitters of all time. Shaving off about 10 home runs from each of McGwire's big power/full/full-ish/around 100 games played seasons still has him around 450 home runs for his career. You're really saying that the guy hit most of the home runs in his career simply because of PEDs? I don't think you can really use Bonds' HR totals as a baseline since he was getting pitched to about once every 4 or 5 PAs. You're right (though he routinely lead the league in IBB for almost a decade straight through 1998, though those totals were obviously a lot lower). It's also not fair/accurate to shift over those kind of numbers from a hitter like Bonds to a much more (relatively) flawed hitter like McGwire, which is why I at least took the "max" 10 off for him for at least 13 seasons. I mean, the whole thing is an exercise in hypotheticals and subjectivity; I just think the idea that McGwire had like 100+ (or even around 150) HR that were "helped" out over his career is a LOT more realistic than just saying most of his numbers were based on PED use. That guy was a HR beast from the day he started playing baseball.
  25. Sammy Sofa
    You're on a very slippery slope when you're using examples of past players who almost certainly were using greenies like they were candy. Greenies at the very least. PEDs as we know them have basically existed since WW2, and really took off in sports in the 60's. That people willfully act like PEDs outside of speed weren't around prior to the late 80's are just flat out wrong. Yeah, but that whole old school baseball mentality that extra muscle would slow your swing/pitches down makes me think that it would be a much slower adaptation to use in baseball. You don't really hear about widespread use in football until the 70s, so even if that's late, I would think the 70s is about the earliest baseball would have seen any significant use. Again, you had people worldwide using them to be able to train harder and play through injuries and build strength without turning into a monster; that's the part that came later and that's what so many people assume is the hallmark of a PED-user. People can and could easily use them to build strength without turning into a juicehead.
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