Yes, stats about performance in all situations, including when a runner is on first, can't possibly be used to predict how one can do if a runner is on first. That would be just asinine. what are you talking about? if you were actually following the discussion, you would see that the topic was theriot's ability to move runners over. when you show me data that includes his at bats with the bases empty, that's irrelevant to the discussion. If a guy hits a lot of grounders to the left side, chances are he's going to hit a lot of grounders to the left side even when there's a runner on 1st. that's not true at all. professional baseball players have the ability to hit the ball to the right side if they want to, theriot seems especially good at this. your dunn versus theriot comparisons are meaningless too so i'm not even going to address that. So good at it that he hit into 19 double plays? And my comparison isn't meaningless just because you say it is.