Andy

I hope they get in the top ten pick picture. DIAF

I didn't see the game, but the ND hoops blogger I read said that Notre Dame fell into what LBSU wanted them to do (running to avoid their pressure D, etc.) and only Hansbrough seemed unfazed by it, slowing the team down numerous times. They played well in the first half before Harangody started pounding them inside and the Irish pulled away. I'm already home for Thanksgiving break and won't be back til a week from Sunday, so I will miss the Davis game. I'd forgotten about Joe Harden - I'm just hoping BSU can reel off some wins against their relatively weak segment of the schedule before getting into the Purdue/Dayton portion of the schedule.

Notre Dame handled a pretty good Long Beach State team by 20 tonight behind a 29/12 from Harangody. Tim Abromaitis is a new name that looks like he will make noise for the team this year, and Ben Hansbrough has been lights-out from beyond the arc. On the dark side, we only had six guys in double digits for minutes - Mike Brey looks like he's sticking with his insane streak of never having much of a bench that has worn down the Irish year in and year out. The Big East is 35-0 overall and Syracuse clocked Cal tonight. No idea how long this will last but a cool streak. And for what will be the last time I imagine for a very long time, the Irish entered tonight ranked #1 by the RPI system.

It's classic Panthers. With the apparent fluky exception of 2008, they haven't won a regular season game they had to have since 2003. I fully expect them to win the next two, then take a big lead on New England in week 14 to get my hopes up one last time before gagging on their own spit just like they did against New Orleans.

We learned nothing from this game. Carolina still sucks and hasn't gotten a big defensive stop in six years.

Villanova always seems to not be that great when they're projected to be great. Lucky to escape GMU.

Based on their bodies of work so far, I firmly believe that future civilizations will dig up all the draft magazines that debated "Russell or Quinn?" before the 2007 draft and conclude that our society was primitive and stupid.

I went. It was depressing. This week we got word that we're doing a home-and-home with a freaking FCS team in 2013-14. When we visit Illinois State in 2013 it will be the first FBS at FCS matchup since '04. And our stupid athletic director admitted that he hadn't looked at the facts on that but still claimed that such matchups 'happen all the time'. To think that a year ago our biggest problem was that we hadn't beaten Miami (OH) by enough to move up in the BCS.

Stacey King rules. He's just as homer-ific as Red was but he's also a pretty good analyst, which Red, bless his heart, was not.

But, they scored in the 40s thus the whole Big East sucks. Or will that not apply this year? Georgetown runs the Princeton offense and almost never gets more than the low 70s. They're also young and not that good (yet). A lot of that apllied to us last year and it didn't stop us from getting the whole conference branded. And now you have a ton of ranked teams and everyone is sucking your conference's collective [expletive]. No reason to still be bitter.

But, they scored in the 40s thus the whole Big East sucks. Or will that not apply this year? Georgetown runs the Princeton offense and almost never gets more than the low 70s. They're also young and not that good (yet).

Yay for the Big East remaining undefeated after Georgetown rallies to beat Temple.

This league is one of two I'm in where I'm the highest-scoring team but am in 3rd place. I was in 5th place with the highest-scoring team until winning last week, oddly enough. A stroke of bad luck has my two defenses going against Indy and New England, so I picked up the Cardinals D, which faces the Rams this week. Should be a fun matchup.

Ronnie Brown is out for Thursday's game. It'd be nice to be back at .500.

Damn. Well that'll do it. You want him gone or no? I can't remember which side of the fence you're on.

Okay, earlier in his tenure, but what does that have to do with the team that is out there now? It's a BS argument. Weis had his best seasons with Ty's recruits. I'm not defending the argument GR made, but give Ty those teams and let's see him win 19 games in two years. I'm setting the over/under at 4.5 fewer wins that Ty would've had with the same crew.

Mike, I'm officially apologizing to Derek Anderson. He's probably not a good QB, but watching this atrocity I'm finally truly convinced that there's pretty much no way anyone could play well behind center in Cleveland. Which isn't to defend Brady either, he's been bad tonight. But they need some offensive playmakers if any QB is going to win for them.

Assist to Browns wideouts for dropping two passes into picks. And seriously, does he suck that bad in practice that you can't call a single deep ball ever? But yeah, it doesn't look good right now.

That's a horrible call.

Brady just wants more time with his hands under center. Homophobia is fun for the whole family.

Has Cleveland been screwing around like this pre-snap all year?

I think you are revealing why it's considered a bad job, more than defending it. Isn't the whole problem about everybody living in the past? How the coaches of the distant past are remembered doesn't really affect the status of the job right now. The problem is they're bringing in the wrong people. They hired a career assistant to replace Holtz, replaced him with a resume-fudger, panicked and hired Willingham to stem the negative p.r. blitz from the resume-fudger, then hired an NFL guy who doesn't get college football at all. People who call it a bad job conveniently forget that it's been filled by bad coaches for the last 13 years.

You are dreaming. It's the same job as it was when Lou Holtz left. It's a terrible job with high expectations and very little chance of success. Any coach who's at a state flagship institution like OU knows they have it better than whomever is coaching ND. The only thing that can attract Stoops or Meyer would be lots and lots of money and stroking their already massive self importance. I'm dreaming? Stoops allegedly has interest and I said I've love to have him as the coach at ND. It's not like I'm having t-shirts printed up or something. The job may be the same as it was when Holtz left, but I didn't say anything about that. Only that it's a much better job than it was in '04 when Ty left with 2 holes in the '03/'04 recruiting classes. Of the 14 non-interim head coaches at ND starting with Jesse Harper, 5 are now remembered as unqualified successes and pretty well revered in South Bend (Knute, Leahy, Parseghian, Devine, Holtz), Harper is well-remembered largely because he coached Rockne and put the wheels in motion for the Irish to become a power and 2 others (Layden and Brennan) were pretty solid coaches whose only fault was coming too soon after legends had left. Hunk Anderson won 63 percent of his games over 3 years. The only four in the bunch that are remembered with overt negativity are Faust, Davie, Willingham and ostensibly Weis. That doesn't seem like a job with no chance of success to me. The failure of Notre Dame coaches has more to do with the people hiring them than the coaches themselves (meaning these are guys that shouldn't have been put into a position like ND to begin with). I don't think it's a coincidence that only 1 of the first 3 was ever hired at a major program again (Ty running UW into the ground), and it's probably a safe bet that Weis won't get another college job.

I really shouldn't have, but I LOL'd.

I'd love, love, love to have Stoops. Easily my #1 choice. You and me both. Over Urban Meyer? Or do you not consider him an option? I don't think there's any way Urban would leave UF.