Interesting - for me it looks like (only 3 teams here though): 4 playoff appearances (2 Panthers, 1 Bulls, 1 Cubs - .57 a year) 13 playoff wins (5 Panthers, 2 Bulls, 6 Cubs - 3.25 an appearance) 1 playoff series win (.5 per appearance by a series team) 1 championship round appearance (Panthers SB 38 ) 0 championships I've had it better than I complain about, I suppose. Only problem is, with Carolina's murderous schedule this year compared with the Cubs' mediocre offseason and the Bulls' young uns, it's probably going to be at least February 2008 before another pro team of mine wins the big one. But, like you said UMFan, MJ made it worth it. See I'd count the Panthers winning as a playoff series win. By that I meant advance to the next round (meaning that you aren't like most of my teams that are 1 and done - like the Bears, Blackhawks and Bulls are) Of course, none of my teams has has as bad of a season as the Panthers had in 2001 (1-15) The best part of that season was that they won in Minnesota in week 1, then proceeded to blow 11 second half leads and 1 second half tie in the next 13 games, before they eventually just gave up and let themselves be completely destroyed in the last two games. It was a sad thing to watch.