Andy

Well, so much for "we robbed the Giants in that Hawkins deal".

The coaches already had Texas at 2. They dropped ND from 3 to 5, with Auburn and USC leapfrogging them instead of Texas and USC in the AP poll.

But that was a team that should have won 95 games. And in fairness to Jim, we didn't know Wood and Prior were walking disasters yet going into 2004.

Here we go! As always, all times are Eastern and * means GamePlan. Matchups between Top 25 teams --------------------------- (1) Ohio State at (2) Texas (8 pm, ABC) (19) Penn State at (4) Notre Dame (3:30 pm, NBC) "Good" Top 25 games --------------------------- (12) Georgia at South Carolina (7:45 pm, ESPN) (18) Clemson at Boston College (3:30 pm, ABC) (20) Oregon at Fresno State (10 pm, ESPN2) Minnesota at (22) California (7 pm, TBS) (24) Texas Tech at UTEP (9 pm, CSTV) Top 25 mismatches --------------------------- (4) Auburn at Mississippi State (12:30 pm)* E. Washington at (6) West Virginia (1 pm) C. Florida at (7) Florida (6 pm)* Arizona at (8) LSU (6:30 pm, ESPN2) Troy at (9) Florida State (6 pm)* C. Michigan at (10) Michigan (12 pm)* Air Force at (11) Tennessee (7 pm)* (13) Louisville at Temple (12 pm)* (14) Iowa at Syracuse (3:30 pm, ABC) Washington at (15) Oklahoma (3:30 pm, ABC) (16) Virginia Tech at North Carolina (12 pm, ESPN) Florida A&M at (17) Miami (7 pm, ESPN360) Nicholls State at (20) Nebraska (1:30 pm) UC Davis at (23) TCU (7 pm) Nevada at (25) Arizona State (10 pm) Other Games of interest to NSBB --------------------------- Illinois at Rutgers (12 pm, ESPN2) Ole Miss at Missouri (12:30 pm) Miami (OH) at Purdue (1 pm, ESPN360) New Hampshire at Northwestern (2 pm) Ohio at N. Illinois (3 pm) E. Michigan at Michigan State (3:30 pm)* Texas State at Kentucky (6 pm) Indiana at Ball State (6:30 pm) UL Monroe at Kansas (7 pm) FL Atlantic at Kansas State (7 pm) UT Chattanooga at Memphis (8 pm) Rice at UCLA (10 pm) No sign of SIU, Flames. Do they have the week off? Edit because I can't keep straight that Flames goes to college and Roast doesn't.

You can if they're the defending national champs and had a no contest with a sun belt team. Calling a team without last year's QB or RB the "defending" national champs is kind of a contradiction in terms though.

They are out per ESPN.com. 1. OSU 2. Texas 3. USC t-4. ND t-4. Auburn 6. WVU 7. Florida 8. LSU 9. FSU 10. Michigan

ND drops to No. 4 behind Texas and USC. Texas apparently deserved to move up after playing so well against North Texas. :roll: Not that ND didn't deserve to fall, but you can't drop them below a team that played a Sun Belt team at home.

Please tell me he didn't say that. . . :shock: No way even Morgan could say something that goofy....tell me it ain't so Joe! No, it's a joke. :)

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Agreed. They should (but they won't) cut their losses with the Alex Smith Experiment after this disastrous season.

A part of me wants Z to have some kind of herniated disc, just whatever can spare him from more Dusty abuse this year. Then when the new management team comes in they can teach Z how not to walk people and he won't have to throw 100 pitches to get to 6 every time.

Miles breaks it up.

Wait, that's SERIOUSLY the injury? Oh you've gotta be kidding.

Just kill me now.

It's official, every decent Cubs player of the last two seasons have gone on the DL. (Because we all know Z is seriously injured, this team wouldn't be the Cubs otherwise)

This is quickly becoming a legendary thread (in a bad way) in NSBB history and we're not even through 40 posts yet.

Maris doesn't hold any records. /technicality police

I like Rivers and think he could have a big season, but you are probably better off making the deal as Bulger (or anyone else lining up for the Rams) is a proven fantasy commodity.

All times Eastern. Thursday Sep. 7 - 8:30 pm, NBC --------------------- Miami at Pittsburgh Sunday Sep. 10 at 1 pm --------------------- Atlanta at Carolina Baltimore at Tampa Bay Buffalo at New England Cincinnati at Kansas City Denver at St. Louis New Orleans at Cleveland NY Jets at Tennessee Philadelphia at Houston Seattle at Detroit Sunday at 4 pm --------------------- Dallas at Jacksonville San Francisco at Arizona Sunday Night Football, 8 pm, NBC --------------------- Indianapolis at NY Giants Monday Night Football, ESPN --------------------- Minnesota at Washington (7 pm) San Diego at Oakland (10 pm)

I don't see any of those downgrades you talked about. And UCLA lost their entire offense from last year, there is no way ND loses to them. So you really think Darius Walker = LenDale White + Reggie Bush? Because that is just ludicrous. I would also give 2005 USC an advantage at WR if you factor in Reggie Bush lining up there 10-15 times a game. Quinn would be a slight downgrade because he doesn't have a Heisman like Leinart did going into last year. Oh, thanks for clearing up his post for me. I thought he was comparing 2006 ND to 2005 ND. That makes much more sense now. #-o

And yet they'll look like a completely different team when Notre Dame rolls in on 9/23. I'm sure they will. The two things that have mystified me most about Notre Dame football in the last decade are how Lloyd Carr hasn't been able to beat ND consistently when he had so much more talent for the bulk of that time, and how Michigan State has dominated ND despite not having as much talent in the bulk of that time.

Wasn't this the same guy that after he was dealt to the Cubs, said he prefer the NL style of ball over the AL? So, isn't kind of odd that he would initiate a trade to an AL team? Wants to play for a contender + no NL contenders have an opening at 1B = Nevin taking what he can get.

That leaves Aramis, Jacque, Z and Murton as people on this team who have actually contributed something this season who have not gone on the DL.

I love Lou Holtz to death, but watching him and Mark May debate on television is sort of like watching John Kruk and Steve Phillips debate on Baseball Tonight.