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I think Henry or Aldrich will be better. Henry has more star potential. I doubt Aldrich will be great, but I think he'll play in the NBA for a long time because of his D and rebounding. I love Marcus, but I think his size and athleticism will hurt him in the NBA. Aldrich, imo, is gonna flop and hard. No offensive moves and not very atheletic. Plus I think he will be in foul trouble a lot.

Am I crazy to think Marcus Morris is gonna be the best pro on this KU team?

Holy [expletive], I would love being an 11/12 seeded Illinois team playing UNI. We'd beat them by 20. I think we'd win, but doubt we would blow them out. For some reason we haven't really blown anyone out this year. We play to the level way too often.

Its not about sure things. Its about having that dependable set up man to get you to the closer. For the past 3 years, at least for the most part Marmol has been that guy. Now hes the closer, and while I dont mind a lot of the guys we have as middle relievers or mop up men, theres not a one Id trust to consistantly take a 1-2 run lead from the 8th to the 9th. I dont mind Grabow despite his foolish contract, which is hardly his fault but hes not that guy. Marshall or Silva? I dont think so either. There more long men if your starter burns out early. Then theres the pool of Stevens, Gaub, Berg, Samardzjia, Parisi, Caridad and maybe even Cashner. Granted, I wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these guys gave us a pleasant surprise as Marmol did in '07, but Id feel more comfortable with another vet, and at something like 1.5 mil, Calero would have been a nice gamble. Waste of money. Why spend so much more gambling on a player when you can do it for much cheaper using someone already in the system? I'll never understand why some people are so quick to dump money on the most unreliable roles in baseball. Because they don't understand you can't just throw money at it like you can every other part of a team?

What teams typically have a "handful of awesome arms" for their bullpen? Maybe you meant to say "a couple," since that's infinitely more realistic and even then isn't the norm. The Cubs have more than enough in house options to cycle through the bullpen before anyone even needs to think about wasting money or trade bait to strengthen it. i really love the dodgers pen, and that's about it I like the Yankees pen.

29 guys better than Cap Anson. Yeah, we wish.

I'm still peeved how he threw the Simpsons off the trail of MLB by hitting dingers.

There are a surprisingly high amount of brackets that have Illinois in at this point. That win at Wisconsin has a LOT of weight. The bubble overall is so weak this year that a win like that really sticks out. I'm not saying they're safely in now, but I really think they'd be safe if they can win 1 of their next 2 against Wisconsin. Yep, we also would have been in had we just beaten awful Minnesota.

l still think we need to win one more to be in.

I just hope Jereme isn't sitting behind Bill Cole. Barring injury, I'm willing to bet on Jereme getting more tick. I wouldn't be surprised if he's off the bench to start the year, but he's just too good to not get serious minutes come conference play. I wouldn't be stunned to see a DMac-Paul-DJ-Davis-Tisdale lineup for much of the year though. I can live with that scenario. My big fear though is Brandon and Paul are both off of the bench while Cole starts.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist. Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic. Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits. In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA. Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams Indiana put in Eric Gordon Minnesota hasn't put anyone in Michigan hasn't put anyone in Purdue has put in Carl Landry Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis Northwestern hasn't put anyone in Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook Iowa hasn't put anyone in Penn State hasn't put anyone in That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent. You've done a fine job of illustrating how the Big 10 produces crappy NBA players. Yeah Deron and Devin are it. Still Wisky has one of the two All Stars.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist. Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic. Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits. In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA. Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams Indiana put in Eric Gordon Minnesota hasn't put anyone in Michigan hasn't put anyone in Purdue has put in Carl Landry Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis Northwestern hasn't put anyone in Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook Iowa hasn't put anyone in Penn State hasn't put anyone in That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent. No they really don't. I never thought anyone would debate this. They never get top classes because recruits don't want to go there. They get guys who fit Ryan's scheme and thus play well for them but don't have the talent of the Gordon's, Moore's, Oden's, Lucas', Harris', McCamey's ... etc. Your list is also pretty incomplete. Marcus Landry I believe made it this year, Indiana has White who made it (and sort of Harden), Minnesota has Humphries, Michigan State had Alan Anderson a couple years ago, Michigan had Courtney Sims, Ohio State's Hunter I believe got sometime last year with an east coast team and there's Koufos and finally there is Illinois (how did you forget them) who had Augustine and Dee Brown. These are also off the top of my head and I'm sure I missed a few although this tends to be something I remember well. I was trying to go with guys who were actually playing com ein the NBA otherwise I would have went with Roger Powell as well.

Pray McCamey comes back, otherwise we are going to see WAY too much JJ. I believe he'll come back it'll only improve his draft position. If he doesn't, I don't know if we'll necessarily see way too much of JJ. Weber values defense, if Paul improves or say, Richmond or Head play good D they'll get the minutes over JJ. And none of those players are ball handlers. Bertrand is apparently lacking in this area as well. Unless we take a PG for 2010 it'll be a lot of JJ. richmond might have to handle the point ala evan turner. I just hope Jereme isn't sitting behind Bill Cole.

As for your Wisconsin can't recruit thing. Since 02 the conference has had 17 McDAAs. Ohio State has had 8 of them. Indiana has had 3. Michigan State has had 3. Illinois 2. Wisconsin has had 1. So 4 of the teams have had a better run of recruiting. Out of those 4 only Ohio State has hhd just a huge run difference, but if you wanna believe that Wisconsin doesn't have talent each year by all means go right ahead. Fact is they are a good program, ran by a good coach, with a good talent level.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist. Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic. Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits. In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA. Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams Indiana put in Eric Gordon Minnesota hasn't put anyone in Michigan hasn't put anyone in Purdue has put in Carl Landry Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis Northwestern hasn't put anyone in Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook Iowa hasn't put anyone in Penn State hasn't put anyone in That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

I'd give my left arm to have him back. I haven't noticed. Sorry, I liked being relevent. You cannot honestly tell me you wouldn't take Self back. There's taking him back and there's desperately longing for him 7 years after the fact. And he's not coming back, he's never coming back, so what is the point of a comment like that. It looks pathetic to think back on those glory days of a coach who was here for 3 years and took us to the elite 8 Ok fair enough, I just want a guy who can come in to a school in a basketball hotbed and manage to put together a team good enough to be able to make the tournament every year. Heck sometimes even win a game or two when we make it. That really shouldn't be that tough to do. Yet we've managed to find one of the few guys who can't do it. It doesn't have to be Self, but it sure as hell needs to be someone else. 5 years in between tourny wins at Illinois isn't getting the job done.

I'd give my left arm to have him back. I haven't noticed. Sorry, I liked being relevent. You cannot honestly tell me you wouldn't take Self back.

I'd give my left arm to have him back.

Please tell me at some point Illinois will be a top 10 team again.

Yeah, I wish that Paul or D.J. would have been the one to bring it up.

Horrible last look. Damn.

Me too, maybe he's learning. I hope.

Brandon Paul is a [expletive].

Joseph a 64% fter is 7 for 7. :roll: