OleMissCub

Some advertisements of various players: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/feller-1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/06b876.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/06b875.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/1910sTyCobbTobaccoTin.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/1930sBabeRuthDrinklessEasel-backAdv.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/1940sTyCobbSee-HowMovieViewerwithBo.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/3d_1_b.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/3df5_1_sbol.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/426f_1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/43068.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/6ruth.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BabeRuth-KingOfSwat-YankiboyUni30s.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BabeRuthUnderwear.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BabeposterforfilmHeadinghome.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/a3b0_1_sbl.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BatteringBabeLookAtHimNow.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/TyCobbSchoolNotebook-1910s.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/c7d7_1.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/da76_1_sbol.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/de55.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/e7d5_1.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/c20d_1.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/fe80_1.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/fnphillies.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/l_790bf014b07da83512ee3838a6ca2894.jpghttp://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbglove.jpg and the most ironic of them all considering what Ruth died from. http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/1945IronicBaeRuthCigaretteAd.jpg

The way I see things, this trade is basically just Gallagher for Harden, seeing as how Epatt and Murton had nowhere to play anyways. WOW.

I want to say I disagree, but I can't.

Tim Hudson?

Thought this was pretty: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/293/babeswingrh5.gif

How badass was Stan the Man during his prime? Musial hit .435 over 180 games in 1947-48 and hit .469 over 104 games in 1947. http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43812&stc=1&d=1212561956

More unique photos of Ruth, who is surely the most photographed individual to ever play: three of the top hitters in history (that's Eddie Collins btw) http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35861&stc=1&d=1203284955 http://www.baseballforum.com/attachments/baseball-history-teams-yester-year/368d1167939009-sweet-music-babeonhorn.jpghttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4527/yanksvw7.jpg Gehrig, Ruth, Chuck Klein (he put up some absolutely SICK numbers before injury ruined his career), and Jimmie Foxx http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction29/photographs/35625.jpg Throwing chocolate to fans: http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction29/photographs/36569.jpg On vacation with wife Claire (the original cleat chaser, she used to date Ty Cobb among others) http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/photos/Ruth_Babe_MLD20.jpg http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction30/photographs/38232e.jpg Ruth, Miller Huggins, and Gehrig (the original calfzilla) http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/04/sports/04anderson.1.600.jpg Ruth and Leo Durocher: http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/RuthBabe_photo44.jpg Ruth and Gehrig: http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39250&stc=1&d=1207830319 http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37688&stc=1&d=1205637339 http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37331&stc=1&d=1205188729 I like this picture alot from a private collection. Imagine finding that in your grandfather's photo album. http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44109&stc=1&d=1212986584

I think Berkman is a pretty good comparison to how Babe looked during his prime. Berkman is obviously heavyset and runs in a funny manner (like the Babe), but his pudginess doesn't appear to hurt his play or athleticism in any noticeable way. http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Houston-Astros--Lance-Berkman-Poster-C13041616.jpeg http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33124&d=1198271894 While on the Babe warpath right now in this thread....here is an interesting pic of Babe and Bush 41 when he was a star first baseman at Yale. The photo was taken two months before Babe died. http://tomflocco.com/Docs/63/GhwBushBabeRuth1948.jpg

More InitialNoticeBlack productions: Pete Alexander Yogi Berra Ty Cobb Dizzy Dean Joe DiMaggio Bob Feller Jimmie Foxx Lou Gehrig Lou Gehrig's speech Rogers Hornsby Carl Hubbell Walter Johnson Mickey Mantle Christy Mathewson Willie Mays Joe Medwick Stan Musial Mel Ott Satchel Paige Jackie Robinson Babe Ruth Ted Williams

A Babe compilation I made a while back of footage from various baseball history DVD's I own, but was yanked off youtube. I reuploaded it and I'm anxiously awaiting to see how long it survives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB1Z-7yDSAY Some things to note: 52 seconds in: I have NO idea what is up with that. A walking swing? You could barely do that if someone was throwing underhanded. Was Babe just goofing around during a live game? It appears that it didn't harm him...looks to have gotten a double out of it. 1:20: The pitcher covering home on the play where Babe is called out at the plate is Walter Johnson. 1:26: Game 7, 1926 World Series at Yankee Stadium. Bottom of the Ninth, Yanks down 3-2, 2 outs. Grover Cleveland Alexander walks Babe who for some reason attempts to steal second on the next pitch and is tagged out by Rogers Hornsby to END the World Series. The Cardinals are seen running off the field for fear of Yankees fans charging onto the field and attacking them. Home fans back then obviously didn't give the away team the courtesy of celebrating on their field. 2:05: Judging by the reaction of Babe, the players in the dugout, and the fans in the stands, that ball must have gone 500 feet. Supposedly that is film footage of his 60th home run in 1927.

In his older days yes, but he was about that weight during his prime years. The problem with our modern sense impressions of Ruth is that most of the footage we see is of him during his late 30's, when film footage of players was just beginning to get popular. Thus, we rarely see film footage of him in his prime seasons, when he was a big guy, but certainly wasn't fat like he was later in his career. 1910's as a pitcher: http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4989/babe1918uu1.jpg 1920's in his prime: http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/44/baberuth1920pologroundsbl7.jpg This one is from 1927 with Ty Cobb. They look to be roughly the same size, and Cobb was never considered a huge guy. (I wonder how much the original of that signed picture is worth??) http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43251&stc=1&d=1211750955 1930's (fat babe that we all know and love): http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070810/070810_ruth_vmed_3p.widec.jpg A bonus pic of the Babe: http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7793/ruthxt2.jpg

The July 4th, 1985, game between the Braves and Mets may be one of the strangest games ever. A recap: -The start of the game was delayed an hour and 24 minutes by rain, and the game was delayed in the 3rd inning 41 minutes by rain. -The Braves scored four in the 8th to take an 8-7 lead, but the Mets tied it in the 9th. -Keith Hernandez got a single in the 12th to complete a cycle. -Howard Johnson hit a two-run homer with two outs in the 13th to give the Mets a 10-8 lead. Terry Harper for Atlanta then hits a two-run homer with two outs and an 0-2 count to tie it. -Darryl Strawberry and Davey Johnson are ejected in the 17th for arguing a called third strike. The Mets get a sac fly in the 18th to take an 11-10 lead. The Braves' first two hitters are retired, and with no pinch hitters left the Braves are forced to let pitcher Rick Camp, with a major league worst .060 career average, bat. With an 0-2 count he hits a game-tying homer. -The Mets get five in the 19th, and Ron Darling comes on in relief for the first time since college. The Braves get two runs and have two on and two out when Camp comes up again, but he strikes out. -The 4th of July fireworks start at 4:01 A.M., causing many Atlantans to think the city is under attack.

Playing sizes of some of the greats: Ted Williams: 6'3, 205 Babe Ruth: 6'2, 215 Lou Gehrig: 6'0, 200 Ty Cobb: 6'1, 175 Honus Wagner: 5'11, 200 Jimmie Foxx: 6'0, 195 Rogers Hornsby: 5'11, 175 Nap Lajoie: 6'1, 195 Sam Crawford: 6'0, 190 George Sisler: 5'11, 170 Cy Young: 6'2, 210 Walter Johnson: 6'2, 200 Christy Mathewson: 6'2, 195 Lefty Grove: 6'3, 190 Carl Hubbell: 6'0, 170 Mordecai Brown: 5'10, 175

Lot's of players with the "tools" of Francouer get by on tools alone until they make it to MLB. That being my point. He's not smart enough to adjust.

Does anyone in modern times routinely choke up as much as HOFer Richie Ashburn did during his career? http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4940/ashburnie3.gif http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41566&d=1209995476 Hack Wilson was a SQUAT looking dude: http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46138&d=1215289578 Good photo of our favorite Cubs bench coach: http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43937&d=1212775081 Great color photo of a young Hank Aaron: http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38652&d=1207014218

This is an excerpt from a Carl Mays' biography about what occurred between him and Ty Cobb the week after Mays killed Ray Chapman with a fastball to the head. Cobb and Chapman were apparently very close friends. Mays was not very popular during his time and had a reputation as a headhunter. This reputation was obviously made worse by the death of Ray Chapman. Mays had a very solid career and probably would have been a HOFer had the Chapman incident not occurred, going 207-126 with a 2.92 ERA. http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9610/carlmays2vl7.gif http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27876&d=1187807322

A blurb from a September, 1941 issue of Sports Illustrated about Ted Williams:

LOL, Phil Rizzuto??? I'm absolutely positive there could be a scientific study done that absolutely proves the existence of an east coast bias and more specifically a New York bias. The year Rajah got stiffed it was a player from the Brooklyn Dodgers who beat him. Perhaps one of the reasons Teddy lost so much was because the media weren't fans of his, which of course shows the dumbness of the MVP award in that it is really often times nothing more than a popularity contest and is susceptible to extreme bandwagoning i.e. Jimmy Rollins last year.

Francouer is an extremely gifted athlete and seems to have the perfect physical characteristics of an outstanding baseball player. I think maybe he's just not that smart. Given his tools, he should definitely be better than he is.

Jaw dropping stat of the day for me: Imagine a guy getting second in MVP voting who puts up these numbers: .424/.507/.696, 222 OPS+, 25 HR, 43 doubles, 14 triples, 94 RBI, 121 runs. That was Rajah in 1924.

Some of the quirky awards that Bill James gives out in The New Bill James Historical Abstract: Most Admirable and Least Admirable Superstars per decade (in obvious order): 1900's Christy Mathewson Hal Chase 1910's Christy Mathewson Ty Cobb 1920's Lou Gehrig Rogers Hornsby 1930's Charlie Gehringer Joe Medwick 1940's Stan Musial -- 1950's Ernie Banks -- 1960's Roberto Clemente -- 1970's Willie Stargell Reggie Jackson 1980's Dale Murphy Steve Carlton 1990's Greg Maddux Albert Belle Negro Leagues Rube Foster John Beckwith Best Power/Speed Combination: 1900's: Honus Wagner 1910's: Frank "Home Run" Baker 1920's: Kenny Williams 1930's: Ben Chapman 1940's: Joe Dimaggio 1950's: Willie Mays 1960's: Willie Mays 1970's: Bobby Bonds 1980's: Rickey Henderson 1990's: Barry Bonds Negro Leagues: Oscar Charleston Hardest Throwing Pitcher 00's: Walter Johnson 10's: Walter Johnson 20's: Lefty Grove 30's: Bob Feller 40's: Bob Feller 50's: Steve Dalkowski 60's: Sam McDowell 70's: Nolan Ryan 80's: Nolan Ryan 90's: Randy Johnson Negro Leagues: Smokey Joe Williams One of a Kind: 00's: Rube Waddell 10's: Ty Cobb 20's: Dazzy Vance (only player who had a Hall of Fame career entirely after age 30) 30's: Willard Hershberger (only player to commit suicide during the season) 40's: Rip Sewell 50's: Gene Conley (only player ever to sustain successful careers in the NBA and the majors) 60's: Ernie Banks 70's: Mark Fidrych 80's: Rob Deer 90's: Jeff Montgomery (only four-pitch relief ace in major league history) Negro Leagues: Buck O'Neil Best Player Who Never Won the MVP Award: 30's: Mel Ott 40's: Johnny Mize 50's: Eddie Mathews 60's: Al Kaline 70's: Dave Winfield 80's: Eddie Murray 90's: Tony Gwynn Highest Paid Player: 00's: Nap Lajoie 10's: Ty Cobb 20's: Babe Ruth (Ruth's $80,000 would be roughly equivalent to $750,000 in today's money) 30's: Babe Ruth 40's: Bob Feller 50's: Ted Williams (1959: $125,000) 60's: Willie Mays ($145,000) 70's: Dave Parker (In 1979 became the first player to earn a million dollars a year) 80's: Mark Davis ($13 million for four years) 90's: Albert Belle Negro Leagues: Satchel Paige Worst Award Selection: 30's: 1938, Ernie Lombardi over Mel Ott as NL MVP 40's: 1942, Joe Gordon over Ted Williams as AL MVP 50's: 1952, Hank Sauer selected as NL MVP 60's: 1965, Jim Lefebvre picked over Joe Morgan as NL ROY 70's: 1979, Willie Stargell as NL co-MVP. Willie Stargell wasn't one of the thirty best players in the NL in 1979. 80's: 1982, Pete Vuckovich wins the AL Cy Young award. He is probably the worst pitcher ever to win the award. 90's: 1990, Bob Welch wins the AL Cy Young award.

Part of me thinks that Ryno might, just MIGHT have caught that.

The Redskins need to be first on that list, then the Indians. I don't have much of a problem with the schools that use tribe names, so long as the tribe gives their consent, like the Ute, Seminole, and Choctaw tribes have done.

Indians hat is the greatest of them all: http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4837016dt.jpg

angle looks elevated a bit