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You bitch a lot for a guy that wins.

LOL. Kershaw would eat the Cubs alive.

Where'd this height thing come in? I've never heard anyone outside of this board question his height. He looked a lot more like 6'10" on the court than he did 6'7". He can play a legit 4 in the NBA.

Thank you! The comparisons are way off, at least at the pro level. They are all 6'9-6'10 lefties who have and inside/outside game. That's the only comparison. Beasley is probably most similar to a taller Carmelo Anthony. He's a much better rebounder, but maybe not quite the scorer. He also will have ability to play the 3 and 4 unlike Melo. However, your DC comments are off. Coleman was one of the best amateur players that I have ever seen. He was probably just a notch below where Beasley is athletically. His inside/outside game was probably as good, but he was not quite the rebounder. DC's game really went downhill as he got heavy, which started in college. Randolph never had the ability of DC, but also got fat.

Would they keep Gordon and Deng? I would assume Deng, but wouldn't Gordon be a prime candidate to get rid of with his contract situation if they draft the guard? Would Gordon be a legit starter alongside a real point guard? I think Gordon could be great alongside a real PG. I'd imagine at least one of them would be kept, maybe both if they traded Hinrich.

I'm not much of a college basketball fan so I cannot comment on the Coleman Beasley thing, however low graduation rates are somewhat of a red herring. When I was at OSU the graduation rate (within 4 years) for ALL undergrads averaged around 35%-45%. At most of these big schools graduation rates for all undergraduates is pretty poor. Graduation rates are always going to be worse because many times the athletes come to college unprepared to succeed at college. I know some of the people who work with the athletes at the University of Memphis, and they are working hard with the athletes even before the athletes formally take classes. I think it is a bit unfair to make blanket statements about programs. But it's not unfair to pick on the outliers, which, I believe Huggins' programs have always been. I don't disagree, but I'd like to know what the overall graduation rate at Cin. was when Huggins was there. Rose is a good kid and has worked hard in school even though everyone knew he was only staying for one year. If I'm the Bulls, I draft him. On the last point I have no idea one way or the other who is a better fit. From the sounds of things I would think they'd be better off with getting Rose and trading some of their guards, but I know very little about basketball. I remember the past couple years all the talk of needing big scorers. The biggest thing keeping them from success was the foolish attempt to try and win as a team without a star, because it was clear they had no stars. Beasley could very well be a star. He will likely be the team's leading scorer (or at least right there with Gordon/Deng) if not this year, then next year...if drafted. The advantage Rose has is that he could also be a star. He probably won't lead the team in scoring maybe ever, but he has the ability to get lesser scorers (Tyrus, Noah) in better position to score with the drive and his incredible vision. His ability to penetrate should also free up Gordon and Deng more also.

Beasley may very well be a better player than Rose in the short and long-term. But Beasley, while not a dime-a-dozen talent....is at a dime-a-dozen position. There's several All-star level PFs in the league. There are few AS PGs out there.

Matchup of the week living up to its billing. Tim up 151 to 150.5 going into the weekend. I have a 1 start advantage. Really counting on big nights from Volquez and Wainwright who are in San Diego and LA respectively. Of course, hoping they both lose 1-0 complete games, on unearned runs!

2. Definitely because Fuld is there. Which is stupid. Colvin does have a much better arm and is better suited for RF of the two. But the move has nothing to do with Colvin's ability to play CF. 4. I don't think the Cubs move Harvey to the mound at this point. I'd think it would have already been done if it crossed their minds. I believe he's a FA after this year, if there are no takers, maybe the move happens.

Could see a lineup w/ BAA Duke of: .556 .333 .310 .310 .167 .333 .381 .500

1-2-3, 2nd inning from Marshall. Just 8 pitches, 4 strikes, 3 of those were put in play none of which left the IF. GO-6, PO-6, GO-4

Apparently, nobody wants to be in the Cubs rotation. Sean Marshall gives up back-to-back singles to start the game, then gives up a RBI single on a 3-0 pitch, and a first pitch, 2 run triple. 4-0 after a fielders choice and 2 ground outs. 1 inning, 4 hits, 4 ERs, 0 BBs, 1 K for Marshall on 27 pitches, 17 strikes Good news is Felix Pie singled to RF in his 1st AB.

That would be a ridiculous deal for the Bulls. That's about what Hinrich is worth, but getting him outta him would be much more valuable. How is it ridiculous if that's about what he's worth? If you're going to dump him for Rose anyway, I find an extra mid-first round pick to be entirely palatable. I'd think if the Bulls were going to make that trade with Portland, a possibility would be draft Beasley at #1 and maybe go for DJ Augustin or Westbrook at 13. There's actually a decent chance Eric Gordon could be there too.

With the Cubs offday today, the next time Gallagher's spot comes up will coincide with Marshall's regular rest. If he can go an effective 5+ today, I would think they'd strongly consider going to him next. I'd still like to see them experiment with the duel starter thing, let Gallagher and Marshall go 3-4 each in the same game, see how that works. The problem for each seems to be the 2nd/3rd time through, and endurance. That's actually not a bad idea. Marshall's OPS against went up about 300 points after 75 pitches last year. He averaged under 5 1/3 innings per start. I do admit though, I hate the idea of being locked into a set routine before the game even unfolds. On one hand, it could be an extra day off for your bullpen. On the other, you let the other team know what's coming and when. You don't know on a given day if Marshall or Gallagher can go 7 strong.

Are you seriously arguing that Parker, Ginobili, and Cassell were more important to championships than Duncan and The Dream? That's a joke. That's like saying Jordan didn't win til he got Bill Cartwright. Also, what has Kobe won without Shaq? What do you forsee Wade winning without Shaq? Shaq got to the finals with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, and Dennis Scott...all guys that were on their way out of the league soon as Shaq left Orlando. That example's not gonna last very long... At least you'll get some use out of it before it's obsolete. :wink: And Penny was a stud, Shaq or no Shaq. Injuries derailed his career. Skinny Hardaway was weak. And yeah, I'm glad I got to use that example before mid-june when I likely can't anymore!

I don't see a lot of negativity. I see people really high on Rose because he's an outstanding talent and fills a great area of need for the Bulls. I think most people expect Beasley to be great and would be the clear cut #1 selection--for the Bulls, or most any other team--if Rose weren't in the draft. But calling him a sure 20-10 guy in the pros is ridiculous. Even Duncan and KG aren't doing that any more--few do. Also best college player does not equate to best prospect. How'd Michael Bishop's pro career turned out? I'm pretty sure Beasley will be a 20-10 guy, pretty much right off the bat, and that's without the luxury of going to a team where he will be the defacto #1 option (Bulls, Heat) unlike Durant.

Are you seriously arguing that Parker, Ginobili, and Cassell were more important to championships than Duncan and The Dream? That's a joke. That's like saying Jordan didn't win til he got Bill Cartwright. Also, what has Kobe won without Shaq? What do you forsee Wade winning without Shaq? Shaq got to the finals with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, and Dennis Scott...all guys that were on their way out of the league soon as Shaq left Orlando.

Only 4 games, but Edmonds has been worse since signing with the Cubs. He's done, people. Bat speed doesn't exist anymore. Can't cover up the holes in his swing anymore. Of course, he's been better than Felix has been in AAA, so there's not really another option right now.

I think if the Bulls were able to trade with the Heat and get the #2 pick, they would immediately spin it to another team. Of course, if the Heat truly don't want Beasley, and the Bulls pick Rose, every team in the NBA will be after the 2 spot.

A Spurs-Celtics series could be a big time defensive battle as well which would be kinda boring also. True, but it'd be something different. Plus, it'd be fun to watch Garnett versus Duncan. I was hoping this series would be Lakers/Hornets, but nooooooooooooooooooooo. Agreed on all points. Damn the Spurs.

Jim Edmonds as a Padre: .178/.265/.233 Jim Edmonds as a Cub: .133/.187/.133 It is possible for him to get worse.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN200805070.shtml Given the pitchers that started each game, I stand by my statement. As well you should. One is the NL ERA leader. The other is Shawn Chokeon

Haven't we only won 1 road series this year? (Swept Pirates) Yes sir.

In related and not-so coincedental news, the Iowa Cubs led 2-0 after 3 innings. Gave up 2 in the bottom of the 9th. Got a leadoff single from Eric Patterson, a balk to get him to 2nd, and then Felix Pie popped out to 3B. EPatt then stole 3rd, but was thrown out at the plate as Murton could not get the ball past a drawn in IF. Murton goes to 2nd on a wild pitch, Kroeger strikes out to end the inning.

Wow. And one of those walks against the rehabbing Rafael Soriano.