The Pirates only managed 4 runs in 2 games against the Ass Cubs. I'd hate to be THOSE guys. :wave: Honestly, this is the one time where I think it's okay for a fan of another team to come and talk crap. You guys suck ass and have for years, but at least you know you're going to suck. We have $140 million payroll and are absolutely horrid. In some ways, I envy teams like the Pirates being able to trade their veteran players and rebuild through the minor league system. Of course, when it is a neverending cycle of trading players and starting over, that's no fun either.