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This probably won't materialize until a decision is made on Peavy. -
Re: Back Up Middle Infielders
BigbadB replied to CubbieBum's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Who is playing 2nd when that happens? Depends on who else is on the roster. Ahh. It's probably a safe bet that there will be another middle infielder on the roster. But, the pickings are getting slim. -
Re: Back Up Middle Infielders
BigbadB replied to CubbieBum's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Who is playing 2nd when that happens? -
If that's true, then that's a good question. If he's relying on getting 10/5 before going somewhere, it doesn't make sense because he'd lose those 10/5 rights once he was moved, and he'd need a contractually awarded NTC (which he already has). Maybe there's another scenario that I'm not thinking of... He just doesn't want to leave SD. But, if he were to be traded at this point, he could require a 1 or 2 year extension with NTC rights written in to the extension.
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The strangest part of this whole trade debacle, IMO, is that they have wasted the entire winter meetings haggling over players. Several teams seem to be in a holding pattern on this, which isn't really fair to any of them. That also includes Peavy. Hendry played this game last year with Roberts, and lost. Towers has a whole lost more work to do once this trade gets finalized (if it gets finalized). That team is an absolute mess. They need a 2b, a SS, a catcher and quite possibly a CF. If I had to guess, Towers will spin Marquis and a prospect to Colorado for Taveras and maybe even Barmes. I have no idea where they expect to get a SS on the cheap.
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Olney is only repeating what's been said since the offseason began. The Padres want their payroll to be cut down to 40m, if not lower. Giles and Peavy alone make up half of that at 20m. Giles has stated that he won't waive his NTC. That pretty much forces San Diego to trade Peavy. Towers' only job this offseason is to meet ownerships request. His job probably depends on doing exactly that. Towers is probably playing the leverage game to the full extent that he can with Hendry, but Hendry isn't stupid. One question that begs to be asked is why they picked up the option on Giles? They didn't have to do that, and considering that they're dealing Peavy in a lose-lose situation from a negotiation standpoint, it really seems like it was an incredibly stupid thing to do, unless they have a gentlemans agreement that Giles will allow them to trade him to at least a limited number of teams despite his NTC in exchange for picking up the option, which he may not have gotten as much money on the FA market had they declined it. This is the part I really don't understand. But, Towers and Alderson haven't exactly performed like geniuses in any of their dealings this offseason. I honestly thought they would not offer to pick up Giles' option. They must have felt that he would be willing to be traded once the fire sale began. They thought wrong.
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Hendry's holding his ground, as he should. The Cubs are the only team Towers is talking to. The Cubs have back up plans in place should Towers play hardball. The Cubs don't NEED another SP. Their need is a LH RF. Hendry is offering fair value for Peavy for helping Towers save his job. Towers will have serious mud on his face with ownership if he wasted the entire GM meetings trying to work 1 single deal and he doesn't get it done.
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It might've just been speculation, but I thought I heard that they'd be able to keep him til the deadline since they moved Greene, though they still have to trade him at some point this year. Peavy has a full no trade clause. Moving him at the deadline would likely be much more difficult than moving him now. Peavy doesn't have to approve a trade to anyone. Towers would be doing himself a favor and taking what he can get for him now, rather than risking that he can't move him at all at the deadline. I understand that, I was just talking from a financial standpoint. If someone floated that rumor out there, it was probably Padres brass, with a lame attempt to gain some leverage. The Padres have very little leverage. In fact, their only leverage is they currently own the rights to Peavy. That's it.
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It might've just been speculation, but I thought I heard that they'd be able to keep him til the deadline since they moved Greene, though they still have to trade him at some point this year. Peavy has a full no trade clause. Moving him at the deadline would likely be much more difficult than moving him now. Peavy doesn't have to approve a trade to anyone. Towers would be doing himself a favor and taking what he can get for him now, rather than risking that he can't move him at all at the deadline.
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Olney is only repeating what's been said since the offseason began. The Padres want their payroll to be cut down to 40m, if not lower. Giles and Peavy alone make up half of that at 20m. Giles has stated that he won't waive his NTC. That pretty much forces San Diego to trade Peavy. Towers' only job this offseason is to meet ownerships request. His job probably depends on doing exactly that. Towers is probably playing the leverage game to the full extent that he can with Hendry, but Hendry isn't stupid.
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He certainly didn't portray Hendry as the guy we are familiar with. While I'm sure the DeRosa interest is real, I'm sure Hendry isn't telling Towers to back off on his demands. The latest demands are more than fair, as is Peavy's small market contract extension. Hendry just got everyone to finally shut up about the key elements of the deal that will likely go down late tomorrow or soon after.
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Yep. That's him.
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Yeah, that's what I said BBB. It seems like a big cost for DeRo. To be fair, it's likely that DeRo is a type A after this season, so he'd possibly be worth 2 high draft picks. Have you seen how the Cubs make draft picks. I'll take two bonafide prospects from the Phillies over the future draft picks all day long. Oh, I absolutely agree. But one cheap year from a player like DeRosa who fits the Phils needs, plus two high draft picks after next season might very well be worth Donald and Carrasco. I doubt it, and would think it'd be more like DeRosa + Colvin for Donald + Happ, but it's not inconceivable somebody in a position of power really likes or is really down on certain players. What's the name of that kid the Padres drafted about 3 years ago that has a name similar to Carlos Carrasco (double letters and same letter first and last name). He just had surgery awhile back. That'll get confusing when the two make it to the bigs together.
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Yeah, that's what I said BBB. It seems like a big cost for DeRo. To be fair, it's likely that DeRo is a type A after this season, so he'd possibly be worth 2 high draft picks. Have you seen how the Cubs make draft picks. I'll take two bonafide prospects from the Phillies over the future draft picks all day long.
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Jason Donald and Carlos Carrasco for Mark DeRosa? I know it's just a rumor at this point, but WOW! Carrasco is the Phillies top prospect. And can we keep Donald and send them Theriot instead?
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... She's deferring to Steve Phillips' knowledge. And that says just about all you need to know about Carrie Muskat. Besides the fact that she has completely contradicted herself within just a few short hours. She, pretty matter of factly, declared DeRosa wasn't going anywhere.
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I know I am doing the exact same thing :banghead: , it's only around 4 in Vegas so it's possible some new stuff starts rolling in soon as GM's start gong to dinner/out and I would think we have an idea where we stand on Peavy sometime tonight/late tomorrow morning IMO. 4pm is usually when people start thinking about getting out of bed and going down for some breakfast.
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My life is on hold.
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Ron Artest you mean. Axelrod was the one who threw the cup at him I believe. No, a year later there was an incident where a fan was bothering Davis' wife and he went into the crowd at the UC to confront him. Hmmm...actually it turns out that this Axelrod is actually Obama's campaign manager's son: Who cares about the NBA and some dude named Axelrod. What we need right now is an update on the lowdown on Philly Billy Werndl.
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I'd be happy to go pick him up so that I can spend 4 1/2 hours debating the strengths of Jason Marquis.
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will Rickey Henderson make HOF on the first vote
BigbadB replied to NewUserName's topic in General Baseball Talk
I heard on sports radio the other day with a guy who knows Rickey personally that the Jon Olerud story is just a myth. Two players made it up. -
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1086#new LOL, we sit here refreshing this thread every 30 seconds for 5 hours this morning, get all these minor updates that suggest that a deal is getting closer, and then Bruce chimes in and sets us straight that almost nothing has gone on. I'm now picturing this group of guys no one knows with this fancy booth somewhere in the heart of the GM meetings where they just make up crazy stuff and feed it to the baseball writers who pass by from one meeting room to another to listen through the walls of the war room through a glass.
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Winter Meetings Rumor Thread
BigbadB replied to UMFan83's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Build a park so big that it can hold the result of a Bob Howry fastball. Yellowstone? Hahaha! Is Yellowstone big enough? -
Well, Gammons seems to be wrong about 100% of the time too. Yeah, but Gammons is basically just a roving reporter. He hears stuff like we hear stuff, then he reports on it. He's not "in the know" with any team, excluding maybe Boston.
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Goodbye Mark. Ummm ... reading skills? See the bolded. I'm thoroughly convinced that Carrie Muskat's source is the Cubs clubhouse janitor.
