If he's pitching, some prospect starter isn't. How often do we complain about Hendry because we've got someone ready to go in AAA but they're blocked by some crappy, overpaid vet whose best days are long gone? Prospect? Dumatrait? You've got to be kidding me. If Matt Morris was starting and the bucs had a prospect who could be called up, then that'd be fine. BUT THEY DONT! Dumatrait is a bum who was released by the Reds and has never come close to having a K/BB over 2 since Rookieball/low A in 2001. We complain about Hendry because we have some legitimate pitchers in the minors, who are arguably better than some of the vets in the majors. The Bucs don't have that. Dumatrait is a reliever. You don't cut a guy like him out of the bullpen to free a spot and take a starting prospect in the minors who has never worked out of the pen before unless you're in a position of contention and there's just no other alternatives. See Pignatiello over Marshall at the beginning of the year. Dumatrait and Morris are apples and oranges. Dumatrait shouldn't be in the conversation as to whether or not they should or shouldn't cut Morris. What should be considered is who they are going to bring up to fill that hole in the starting rotation. If they bring up some AAAA filler, then you have a complaint. If they bring up a legit prospect whose time has come, then you can't really complain about the move. That said, I don't know if they have any better starting or relieving prospects than what they have in Morris or Dumatrait. I just won't advocate or condemn the decision to cut Morris because Dumatrait is on the team, because Dumatrait is pulling an entirely different role on the team. Also, if you're thinking Morris could have been moved to the pen in lieu of Dumatrait, Dumatrait doesn't have the history of arm problems with no prior experience getting up and working consecutive days like Morris. I wouldn't advocate that move either. Also, Dumatrait is sporting an ERA+ just over 100 this year (for now), so maybe he's not doing as horrible as you think. Plus, at 26, there's no reason to believe he can't become a serviceable reliever. Morris is going on 34, has posted an ERA+ of 90 three of the last four years, so there's really no reason to expect that he might return to his 25 year old form again. I can't really tell if you are arguing with me or against me. I never said anything about moving morris to the pen. And Dumatrait absolutely is part of the discussion as to whether or not you cut morris because hes the one whos replacing him int he rotation. Hes the AAAA flyer you speak of. They aren't bringing up a legit prospect, because they don't have any (pitching that is). If we are going to be dumb and quote ERA+ over 20 innings of baseball, then I'l site his major league ERA+ of 31 last year. Yes, 31. Or we can talk about his 13 Ks and 13 BBs in 20.6 innings this year and that stellar 5.23 FIP hes sporting. Yeah, he is as horrible as I think. Defending Dumatrait is a losing battle buddy, don't go there. Listen, I'm not saying Morris is good, or will regain what he once was. What I'm saying is that IT DOESNT MATTER. The bucs are goign to be well out of the playoff race with morris sucking, with morris doing well, without morris and his replacement sucking or without morris and his replacement doing well. The bucs don't have anyone worth a damn to put in morris' place, so if you are going to lose anyway and don't have anyone worthy of a spot in the rotation that will have any promise, whats the point in sending morris home? You keep him, best case scenario you can pawn him off for a couple guys near the deadline. Worst case scenario is you don't make the playoffs, can't trade him and pay him his full salary. You get rid of him, best case scenario is you give his spot to some piece of garbage who is going to pitch just as bad as him. Worst case scenario is you don't make the playoffs and pay him his full salary. When you originally posted, did you know Dumatrait was going to replace him in the rotation? Apparently I had missed that fact, and I thought your whole argument was that cutting Morris didn't make sense when you have a reliever as bad as Dumatrait in the pen. He may not have known that the replacement would be Dumatrait, but he knew that whoever it was going to be would be Dumatraitesque. The pirates simply don't have many worthwhile pitching prospects.