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So what low end teenage prospects are available? If the Darvish trade was the best Hoyer could do with a player at his highest trade value, just think what he could do with Contreras. Years from now, when the Cubs are in the midst of losing 95+ games every season and Hoyer is long gone, one of these lotto tickets will have developed in a good major league player. People will then praise Hoyer for his eye for young talent in all his trades.
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That's a good analogy, can't help but think none of them will amount to anything, they remind of the kind of garbage the Braves used to make trades in the 90's, early 2000's. Todd Hollandsworth for Angelo Burrows and Todd Blackford, granted Hollandsworth was nothing great, Burrows was gone by 2006 and Blackford was done by 2009.
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His numbers are goodish so :dontknow: Devil's Advocate Post: 2020: Yu Darvish - 76 IP, 2.01 ERA Zach Davies - 69.1 IP, 2.73 ERA 2019-2020: Yu Darvish - 254.2 IP, 3.39 ERA Zach Davies - 229 IP, 3.30 ERA 2018-2020: Yu Darvish - 294.2 IP, 3.60 ERA Zach Davies - 295 IP, 3.60 ERA 2017-2020: Yu Darvish - 481.1 IP, 3.70 ERA Zach Davies - 486.1 IP, 3.74 ERA I don't actually think Davies is anywhere near as good as Darvish, but it's kinda remarkable how similar the top line results are for both guys. They are however, is there any doubt Davies is going to be obliterated as a Cub? He's going from one the best pitcher' parks in baseball to Wrigley Field, at times, it can be pitcher' park but, on those days when the wind is blowing out and minimizing contact is in order not a good environment for Davies' to be successful.
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It's a few things: - Signing bonuses aren't always linear. They're agreed to when kids are 14/15, and finalized at 16. Sometimes the $1M 14 year old develops a little better than the $3M one. So while the huge money kids are almost always still the top kids in the class, the order can get fudged a bit in that intervening period - When going from amateur to professional ball, you change to an almost entirely new ecosystem of scouts. That's how you get like Nico Hoerner going from being a 40th-ish ranked draft prospect to a top 100 overall guy after 6 weeks in short season ball - In this case specifically, the only place they've been seen since March was the instructional league in October. Longenhagen lives near there, so luckily he has actually seen 3/4 of these guys in the last few months. So while I typically value Keith Law's or Jim Callis' opinion more, I think Eric's opinion holds much more weight currently Isn't troublesome that they've got to be framed in a such a manner to put any positive spin on them? Doesn't it mean there's a long shot to none they'll amount to anything?
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But still, it doesn't read all that hopeful, there's nothing about any of them that jumps out plus they're eons away.
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Looks that way now, lots of risk being taken on by the Cubs, historically that's never played out well. I'd say there's a better than average chance none of these guys are Cubs in two years than any one of the prospects panning out to be a productive MLB'er. Prospects which are all, what, 4+ years away at best? Zach Davies? Weren't the Cubs one of the few teams against which slow, slower and slowest was effective? Remember when Bryant was being shopped and we couldn't get what we wanted for him. If I was a GM on a team that needed a 3B, I would be calling Jed with offers of 2 16-year-olds for Bryant plus cash. Look on the bright side, the Cubs could probably field one hell of a 19U team.
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Well played sir. I spit my coffee onto my laptop from laughing when I read this! Might as well, probably still has better stuff then Davies, he's only 39.
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Looks that way now, lots of risk being taken on by the Cubs, historically that's never played out well. I'd say there's a better than average chance none of these guys are Cubs in two years than any one of the prospects panning out to be a productive MLB'er. Prospects which are all, what, 4+ years away at best? Zach Davies? Weren't the Cubs one of the few teams against which slow, slower and slowest was effective?
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Yes but, its the Cardinals and except for a few blips here and there throughout franchise history, them losing to Ram team with a QB nobody' heard off is definitely within the realm of possibilities. They'll lose and the Bears will back into the playoffs after getting destroyed by Packers.
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Product of Rodgers? Hasn't Rodgers historically been unkind to his TEs? Was it Rodgers or McCarthys schemes? And Graham was aging by the time he signed with GB, he just happens to be having a late-career revival with Chicago And WTF is up with that? This kind of horsefeathers almost never happens for the Bears.
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That's a certainty, there's nothing good coming from this Bears season, they've won too many games thereby, eliminating any chance at drafting a QB. They'll lose to GB in most heart breaking, kick in the balls manner which will enable them to miss the playoffs. Maybe a GB sweep will seal the fate of Pace and Nagy, that could be a good result. Just for horsefeathers and giggles I looked at Jimmy Graham' stats, one could argue he's having his best season since 2017 with SEA, a pro bowl season. Kind of surprising given he had Rodgers as his QB the previous two seasons of course, some no name GB TE is currently having the season of his life. Robert Tonyan. In the interest of being fair to him, the Packers have been bringing him along since 2017, after the Lions discarded him. So good for him for hanging around until he got his chance. I just think he's a product of Rodgers just like many others, and will disappear if he leaves GB. Kind of sick of seeing him make big catch after big catch! Most certainly, I wouldn't be fooled into thinking he could replicate such play with any QB. Rodgers is having his best season - for him - since 2016, might explain why Graham didn't fair as well as I thought he would in his GB years. Just find it pleasantly surprising the Bears, with horseshit for QB's, managed to get anything out of him.
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Why is he worse than Murray and Goff? From a purely statistical point of view there's not much distinction, all of them are about the same QB.
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Unfortunately the Bears will already be down 35-10 so they won't be able to mount that comeback :D That's a certainty, there's nothing good coming from this Bears season, they've won too many games thereby, eliminating any chance at drafting a QB. They'll lose to GB in most heart breaking, kick in the balls manner which will enable them to miss the playoffs. Maybe a GB sweep will seal the fate of Pace and Nagy, that could be a good result. Just for shits and giggles I looked at Jimmy Graham' stats, one could argue he's having his best season since 2017 with SEA, a pro bowl season. Kind of surprising given he had Rodgers as his QB the previous two seasons of course, some no name GB TE is currently having the season of his life.
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To his credit Pace has hit on several non-first round picks now, if he could fix the problem with first rounders.
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the Illini are trash Pretty much sums it up at the moment, thought maybe, just maybe, this was the year we'd see a talented Illini team kick the crap out of teams. But, we're back to the same old horsefeathers - getting out hustled, out toughed, pushed around, out coached - although, I will say the officiating was a deciding factor in two of their three loses. Maybe they'll improve however, right now they're 7-10 seed, possible bubble team, just horsefeathering sucks, the talent is there, no question. Brad has got to start working the refs, they're allowing a mugging of Kofi every time he gets the ball in the paint, its ridiculous, what's it going to take, Kofi hauling off on someone? Guess Brad has started working the officiating - we'll probably see a change tonight vs PSU and maybe, a game or two thereafter then, the officiating will resort back to allowing teams to pound on Kofi.
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If you resign Trubisky, you can draft EDGE or WR in the 1st round, depending on who is there. That frees up letting Arob go or trading Mack. If you draft OL, you will likely have to bring Arob back. Or, you simply BPA the pick I guess the point is if Trubisky plays himself into a new contract you have more options than if he flat out sucked and you HAVE to draft QB in the 1st. I’m really not in the mood to draft a linebacker. My preferences for the first round would be o-line, QB, WR Don't think OL is also a good choice? Seems Lawrence is looked upon as a franchise QB, is there someone else flying under the radar who might emerge as a franchise QB?
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Whenever the Bears and Mitch do well on offense my first response is their opponent must have a real shiity defense. I'm not going to be sucked into thinking a change in play calling, playing to Mitch' strengths, and the OL starting to jell are the reasons for success.
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Suggesting a GB route would be too merciful for us Bears' fans, it's got to be a kick in the balls. Something like the Bears dominating most of the game yet, being unable to build a big enough lead to put it out the question, said back up QB completes a 30+ yd pass with Mack in his face allowing the Packers to kick a game winning FG.
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It's the Bears and we all know making the playoffs is going to come down to win and in vs. GB. They'll lose and still be in the worst possible position to draft an average to above average QB, I'm setting the bar real low. An average QB who can do all the things required of an NFL QB would be a good starting point. Don't think we can ask for more, well, we can ask for more in a franchise QB but, chances for such are slim.
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Illini crush the Gophers tonight, first time they've won a Big Ten opener since I don't know when.
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NFL perpetual 2020 regular and postseason non Bears thread
gflore34 replied to NOLA's topic in Other Sports
Anyone else getting the sense that the whole of the NFC isn't very good? We might see some last day, 9-7 or 8-8 or 7-9 playoff qualifier as the NFC' representative in the SB. -
NFL perpetual 2020 regular and postseason non Bears thread
gflore34 replied to NOLA's topic in Other Sports
I know it’s only his 3rd career start or whatever, but he is missing some wide ass open receivers. He doesn’t seem to go through his progressions fast enough and ends up getting sacked. Dude has seemingly been sacked more times in the past few games than Drew had been all season. I’m really upset to not see Winston with this offense. He’s a doofus but he’s got a metric ton of arm talent. All that said, that Eagles loss was on the defense inexplicably forgetting how to contain the run. Just brutal. Saints are usually do for one of those games a year. Hopefully that was it. Boy, as a Bears fan doesn't that read familiar, but, given, he's not Mitch Trubisky, he might improve on those fronts. So, there's that for Saints fans. -
Coupled with what appears to be weak hands, constantly get the ball knocked out his hands whenever he brings the ball down. Of course, much of that may be attributed to the Hack-A-Shaq "defense" that's permitted to played on him.
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Bears Week 14: Deshaun Watson Makes his Soldier Field Debut
gflore34 replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Other Sports
Its mostly Mitch I think. But I think the Allen success is an interesting case study. Shape your game plan to your players and not vice versa. Isn't that what a quality coach does? Put his players in the best position to succeed and thereby, put the team in the best position to succeed? -
Best play from last night might have been Giorgi body-ing All-World, Dookie, 5 star recruit Jalen Johnson to the hoop for an old fashioned 3 pointer.