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Illini at Wisconsin tonight, I'm optimistic they'll snap the Badger' streak against them. Years past, Wisconsin was legitimately better, do not believe that's the story tonight, Illini may have the better backcourt and the Badgers haven't faced an Illini team or, any team this season, with the likes of Kofi Cockburn in their frontcourt. I've been optimistic before only to have them completely underperform and play like horsefeathers nevertheless, Illini have a real good chance to be only the second team to win on the road during conference play tonight.

Thanks for the answers, I thought it may be a fairly low risk move perhaps, viewing picking up his option as a positive message to rest of the team can't hurt either.

Question regarding Mitch' contract, as I understand it the Bears have until May to pick up his 2021 option. However, he's still under contract for 2020 regardless of the Bears exercising the option. Why would the Bears pick up his 2021 option?

Seriously. I did not agree with the 10 second run off to save the TO but whatever. Why do you kick it with 7 seconds left and that TO still out there? With Drew Brees at QB. Let him put one in the corner of the end zone. If he gets sacked you use the TO albeit with a harder FGA but to me the risk is worth it. Agree, he was content to play for the tie, why not let Brees go for the win?

My dislike for a few a Saints aside, that was a kick in the balls.

Id be willing to give that a chance, but can Tom Beady run an RPO? He's old and has regressed quite a bit but, he'd probably be an upgrade from Mitch and, shockingly, he'd have a lot more weapons around him with the Bears than he had in NE.

I know there's some Saints fans here but, couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of dickheads in Payton, Lattimore.

Lattimore giving up on the long completion to Thelen was so Bear. Wasn't he one of the dickheads making fun of Cohen?

Dalton? Do not believe he's upgrade over Mitch more of lateral move, I believe Nagy' got work with the QB he has. To that end they've got to improve the OL and run blocking, be a run first team in 2020, it's the only scheme in which Mitch is going to have success. I'd think the so-called offensive genius Nagy could figure something out.

You are tripping if you think the Saints do anything this postseason. There is some sort of dark magic that has been screwing with the Saints the past two postseasons. It WILL return. Nah, this team is the best of the Payton/Brees era, even better than the Reggie, Pierre and Colston teams. The defense and running game will travel and the O line is getting healthy. I know you’re half kidding about the black magic stuff, but if the Saints have another heartbreaking loss I may give up sports. With the horseshoe GB has had up it's ass all season and playing in GB, it wouldn't be shocking if the lose and in a heartbreaking manner.

Nor do I, I know many have said we'll probably have to grin and bare it for 2020 but, there's got to be better options. However, consider this, Pace has fucked up the QB position twice (Glennon signing and Mitch), I believe there's enough evidence to suggest he does not know how to find or what is a good QB. Do we really want him trying his hand at QB again?

This is my nightmare offseason. You use more or less all your cap space locking yourself in for years to a painfully average QB, and you still need at least two starters on D (plus a ton of depth), your OL is in shambles and your TE position is a black hole. That's a "dear god, let me get some bounces this year so we can maybe go 10-6 with a divisional round exit and that's probably enough to save my job" offseason. Beyond the light bulb suddenly going on for Mitch in season 3 of Nagy' offense what's the solution?

Is Mariota one a real possibility for the Bears? Heard the average passer rating in the NFL is 91, Mariota' had year below 91 - 75 in 2017 - otherwise, he's an average QB which is big upgrade over Mitch.

There are throw aways and bad throws - think Rodgers ability to ground the ball without being called for intentional grounding has anything to do with those stats? I have no idea how they judge them. but Trubisky does have a knack of hitting receivers well. whats weird is earlier in the season he was air mailing throws over everyone, and it seemed like he did it a lot. the stats def don't rhyme with the eye test It is bizarre take yesterday he missed a certain TD to Robinson in the first half, think he missed one in the second half as well don't remember the intended target. But, it was someone who got behind the DB and most certainly would have scored. Guess it brings around to he's got the physical tools but, not the mental tools. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a stronger arm than both Mahomes and Watson.

I would have thought they'd be in the top 10 in those categories still, not very good. I'm sorry, I meant on target and on target % the Bears are in the top 1/2, which is surprising. They are very low (bottom 1/3) in bad throws %, however GB is near the top of that category. puzzling There are throw aways and bad throws - think Rodgers ability to ground the ball without being called for intentional grounding has anything to do with those stats?

Found this - https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/advanced.htm perhaps, the above only includes currently active players per team? thanks, drop % is what I was looking for, Bears are in the top 1/2, but hardly top 10. Also, look at thrown away, New England has like 40, the Bears dead last at 5. youch however, bad throws and bad throw % has the Bears in top 1/2. Not what I would have expected I would have thought they'd be in the top 10 in those categories still, not very good.

but at what rate per attempt? Found this - https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/advanced.htm perhaps, the above only includes currently active players per team?

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 - Bears are 4th, believe, at one point, they were leading nevertheless, I find it amazing the Falcons, thus far, have dropped only 4 passes.

Mitch 100% made that read pre-snap. He's not comfortable making post-snap reads so he tries to compensate with pre-snap. That's being nice, simple fact is he's incapable of post-snap reads.

The story of the season, I'm certain in nearly every game the above situation has occurred, it's got to drive Nagy crazy. I'd like think Pace sees the same things...

I would as well however, for all of Mahomes' greatness and Mitch' failures they've both have won the same of number of SB's - 0. A dynamic HOF who wins lots of games along way pounding GB and shutting fucks like Rodgers and Amos up, sounds good to me.

I've been struggling with this too and I think it's clear they share the blame in some proportion. But I still think Mitch is the main problem. To be blunt, I think he's a dummy and I think Nagy is really struggling to design an offense around a guy who doesn't know where to go with the ball, can't read a defense, makes the wrong decisions on the read option, etc. When the stars align and you have a wide open WR streaking into the endzone, Mitch airmails it. You see a lot of single option plays where it's just designed to go to one guy with no other options. He's not calling those plays for no reason - he's calling them because he knows Mitch can't read the defense and throw it to the right guy when he has multiple options. Other teams know this and I think it just compounds the issue. The narrative that Nagy is just stubborn and would rather watch his offense repeatedly humiliate itself on national TV rather than call plays that suit Mitch's strengths seems lazy to me - I don't buy it. I put the blame 60-70% on Mitch for the offensive struggles this year. Out of qualified QB's, Mitch is 28th out of 32 in QB rating. He's 32nd out of 32 in yards per attempt. Despite being last among all QB's in yards per attempt, he's still only 20th in the league in completion percentage. He's 29th out of 32 in QBR. And this is with 4 games with a rating over 115! Think about how bad he's been in all the other games to end up where he is. He's not just below average, I think you could make a decent argument that he's the worst starting QB in the NFL. Where I do think Nagy horsefeathers up was not recognizing this going into the season. I think he deluded himself to thinking Mitch is going to take some big leap and he rolled out a gameplan week one that Mitch had 0% chance of being able to execute. Think about that game. Nagy comes in with a game plan calling for Mitch to throw it 50 times. The Packers defensive game plan was literally "Let Mitch play QB." They understood what Nagy didn't. With all that being said, I have no idea where they go from here. They were all in on Mitch and doubled down with the Mack trade. You have to hope for some miracle Tannehill-esque reclamation project. The future looks pretty grim for this team baring some kind of miracle. I agree with your take. Mitch is a dumb person. I also know that the coaching staff had big reservations about Mitch coming in. But they didn't have much of a choice since the team was locked into it. They could only try their best to get the most out of him, and they probably did that. They don't have anything resembling a good enough running game to do much of anything but hope the passing game could get them through the season. Mitch isn't average to below average. He's bad. He's missed so many should be touchdowns, and this team is still maybe 5-6 missed plays from him from being still in wild card contention. Nagy leaves a lot to be desired, but I think he's capable of progressing as a coach and deserves an opportunity to help pick and develop his guy. Pace leaves a lot to be desired, but this isn't a complete disaster of a roster. Let the two guys have a shot at becoming legends, and if it doesn't work out blow it up after 2022. Heard an interesting take on the Bears the other day, said if someone such as Derek Carr were the QB they'd be in the playoffs or in still in playoff contention. It's difficult to play the what if game however, one has to think Carr, being an average QB, wouldn't have missed on numerous TD passes.

Some WR's who can actually catch the ball might help as well. I know Mitch sucks, it was garbage time, blah, blah, blah but, how can he make a better throw than he did to Robinson on the last series? On the sideline, drops it perfectly between two defenders and of course, Robinson drops the ball. He’s had a few drops, but Robinson is not the problem with the offense For the most part he's not the problem, the remainder of WR's cannot catch the ball, it's an impossible situation when you've got one reliable receiver.

It's probably just me, tired of the endless comparisons to Mahomes and stories of Pace' draft mistake but, I've a feeling Mahomes is going to be the Dan Marino of the 20 teens to 20 twenties. Put up gobs of regular season numbers while never winning anything.

How could one night, barring injury, ruin or make Mitch' progress?