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This is my fear as well. Give him an award, Dusty will have even MORE motivation to use him, and he'll be around here as long as Dusty is.

He probably ranks in the bottom 10% in the "wheels" department. I believe he set a record for most at bats without a triple. You'd need someone speedy (other than Corey. Hairston?) in CF to cover most of that ground, then. Really, if you were to keep him, the only place you could stick him would be left or right. But, I'd have no problem trading him for a need.

Don't hate me, but what are Lowell's wheels like? Can he play right? Probably not, but it's worth asking.

If they can trade Jenkins they'll be ok. If they trade some of thier good offensive players in a few years, maybe they'll find a Mulder/Hudson/Zito in the prospects they get in return.

Well, then they'll have to take the Oakland model.... get the most out of your young players, and trade them for prospects when their value is highest.

And in your fantasy world. ;)

Please don't assume I'm easy on steriod testing. I'm not. I would not have qualms at all about an 81 game regular-season suspension (including a post-season ban if applicable) for the first offense, 162 games for the second, and life for the third. However, I'm also a firm believer in "everyone deserves a second chance" in society in most cases. If you murder someone in cold blood? No, you don't. However, if you do something like illegal drugs, I am ok with someone getting a second chance after a punishment. However, I have problems with third, fourth, fifth chances. But if Rookie Player A takes Over-the-counter Suppliment "B", and the 34th ingredient on the bottle contains one extremely small metric measurement of "Not illegal but banned by MLB substance nobody has ever heard of except doctors or scientists", do I believe that player should be banned for life? No. Punished? Yes, but that player deserves a second chance if it was an honest mistake. However, if Veteran player A jabs a needle full of banned substance B into his ass, knowing full well what he's doing, then yes, I have no problem with a lifetime ban. Unfortuantely, since you can't take it case by case, I think you need to be harsh (but not extremely harsh) in a first offense. MLB should update the banned substances list 3 times per year, and should make a copy available to every player on every team in thier native language for them to keep, as well as to minor leaguers on the 40-man rosters. Then, as you said, it would be up to the players to see what is in the suppliments, etc, that they're putting in thier bodies, and check it on the list.

If attendance keeps going up, they'll be able to lock up those players. Lock them up to long-term extentions soon so you can form a good core. You can win as long as you keep butts in seats. Brewer fans will pack the stadium every home date if they can see a winner. They'll have enough revenue.

Thank you. You think a guy making a couple million bucks a year might be able to take a little responsiblity. I'm all for a lifetime ban right off the bat. The reprocutions of steriods haven't been fully realized yet in my opinion. All the stories of kids taking steriods....... Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and all the other stars that played with talent alone, yet being passed by cheaters in the record books........ My stack of Sammy, Barry, Raffy, and McGuire rookies which are now worthless......... Yeah, lets blame congress for being to hard on our heroes :roll: I don't see what you people have against a list making players aware of what they can take and what they can't. Trust me, this isn't just "Don't take anabolic steroids." There are plenty of things in suppliments and stuff that they could get busted for if they're not careful. I think baseball would be wise to at least inform all thier players in thier native tounge on paper of what banned substances are found in what. That way there is no excuse whatsoever. It reduces the amount of "Oh, well I didn't know that a banned substance was in this over-the-counter suppliment I took!" stories that we hear. And as to your second point..... If you have a hornets nest outside of your home, do you spray it with hornet killer or call an exterminator, or do you blow up your house? Both get rid of your hornet problem, but only one makes sense.

Wouldn't it be funny if one of them had inoperable cancer, and people kept calling him "Tumor boy?" HAHAHAHAHA What a riot that would be!! Hillarity!! Boers and Burnstien are classless jerks who need to be kicked in the face.

Now that I'll agree with. We could have matched or bettered either offer and still not taken a big hit with our young players. Especially for Mulder. We should have at least made a few offers for Mulder in order to drive the price up for the Cardinals. Sometimes you don't have to trade for the player... just make the other guys pay too much.

If the Brewers make the playoffs in a few years I want tickets. I'm only about 40 miles from Miller Park, and have never been to an MLB playoff game before. Of course, if the Cubs made the playoffs, or the World Series, I'd sell any and all of my worldly possessions for tickets at Wrigley.

Regression wouldn't shock me terribly. With a young team like that you're bound to have some growing pains. But five years from now, barring monumental stupidity, they'll be one of the best teams in the National League.

Well the Brewers that we know right now is a Selig team, the minor leagues is a Selig created system. Any if not all of the success the Brewers achieve in the next few years is going to be largely because of Bud Selig and what he did for the Brewers. I cannot give Selig good grades because as a Commish and as a Wisconsin taxpayer I can't stand him. But as the owner of the Brewers he hasn't done a bad job. He hasn't done a great job but with the limitations that is the Brewers market he has done alright. The Brewers even in the 90's could develop players their problem was that they could not afford them. The team was swimming in debt and I think no owner could have avoided that in the 90's with the exploding salaries. The only way he could have competed is if had a lot of his own money and he used it to finance a team. I cannot fault him for not doing that, its a poor business decision to do that. I agree. Look at the talent they had that they couldn't afford.... Sheffield, Molitor, Bichette, Cirillo, Vina, Matheny, Sexson, Burnitz, etc. That's a heck of an offense right there, if you take them when they were at thier best with the Brewers. (or, the potential that they found shortly after they left Milwaukee) And they do need to bring back the white and blue pinstriped jerseys with the yellow and blue glove. THAT is classic Brewers right there. I miss those uni's.

A shame that someone with so much talent and potential got caught up in the nose candy and wrecked his career.

I should also note that Congress did not just include steriods, but all "illegal substances" including pot, cocaine, etc.

So once again the steroid talks are happening on Capitol Hill. John McCain called out Fehr, asking him "Don't you get it??" Another Congressman chastised the Player's Union, saying "You only act when Congress threatens you." (Which is true.) Selig's new punishment proposal is as follows.... 1st offense: 50 games 2nd offense: 100 games 3rd offense: lifetime ban The players union proposes 1st offense: 20 games 2nd offense: 75 games 3rd offense: Selig's choice. Congress wants 1st offense: 2-year ban 2nd offense: lifetime ban What, if anything, do you think will come from this? I think if the Player's Union would take Selig's proposal, it would satisfy Congress. Congress is really serious this time (wish we could get them to move this fast on other matters, but that's another thread). Personally, I think Congress's proposal would be a wee bit harsh. If baseball would not provide every player with up-to-date lists (in english, spanish, korean, japanese, etc) of ALL banned substances, and every known suppliment, medication, cream, etc they're found in, an honest mistake is bound to happen by someone and thier career would likely be ruined because of it. What are your thoughts? I think Selig's proposal would work, or, if you want to go harsher, go 100/1 calendar year/life.

As I said before, word I've been hearing is Overbay is gone to the highest bidder. I think he'll go at the winter meetings. Fielder is ready, and they really don't have any other place to put him. If he's a Brewer come opening day I'll be very surprised. I don't know if the Brewers would go for Maddux. We'd have to eat most of that salary in order for them to consider it. And even throwing salary out the window.... do you think Maddux is worth Overbay straight up?

Have they started to blame the announcers for thier losses yet?

Overbay will probably be gone. And the thing is they still have some good hitting and pitching talent still left in the minors. The Brewers actually seem to be able to develop thier minor league talent. They'll have a very good young team for a LONG time. And winning puts butts in seats. Brewer fans WILL come out to see a winner.

I just got in. What's the score?

Most likely. They're on the cusp of breaking out. If not next year, then definately the year after.

I hope that doesn't happen. I don't think he'd want it that way.

All good things must end, I guess.

coughsteroidscough It probably also has something to do with the level of conditioning and medical attention that the players get now. The diagnosis and treatment of injuries has really improved over the last 50 or so years. Nah. It's the juice. Anytime someone does anything noteworthy over the age of 30, it's because they've been roiding up for years.