That's really really depressing to think about. Don't forget about Juan Cruz at the #5 spot. The guy has Pedro-like stuff. He still has that stuff, his K/9 is sick. I don't know why he has never gotten a real chance to start in the bigs. He's had chances but he's always been injured. Can't really blame the organization for that one. Were you talking about Cruz or Guzman as always injured? Guzman has been far to fragile. I think PV was talking about Cruz. He's been given a couple shots to start, but he still walks far too many guys. I'd bet he could outperform a lot of guys making more money than him though. I'm pretty confident that he could outperform several people in the Cubs rotation right now.