Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too... He's basically playing defense-independent baseball. I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping): DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2% So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9% Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01. Don't forget to include ground rule doubles. I also forgot HBP. And another technicality, like in-the-park HR's and GR doubles: some K's require a 1-3 putout. I really intended DMAWBS as nothing but a joke, but it is interesting to see the >50% cases like McGwire and Dunn. The last two instances before Dunn and McGwire were Jack Clark in '87 (DMAWBS 55.6%) and Jim Thome in '01 (54.5%), minimum 500 plate appearances. I was a little surprised Bonds massive '01 year wasn't in the top 5, at only 53.7% (he simply didn't strikeout enough). And TT, yes I'm aware of DI stats and Tango's work, though I'm more familiar with McCracken's DIPS study. I've been following Bill James and sabr since the mid-80's. FWIW, my presumption of everyone on NSBB is that they are generally aware of things like DI stats -- this is a smart crew. And it's never acceptable to "poke fun" at anyone via someone's post unless they are trolling (in which case just ignore the post altogether).