CubinNY

I really like Old Style beer. The Cubs? They suck. Every team makes mistakes the Cubs mistakes are magnified becuase they suck. The suckiest sucks that ever sucked.

And just yesterday I got word from Wriglievillesports/Cubword.com that the Ryan Theriot jersey's were in. Guess they'll be marked down.

I'd say that was pretty optimistic. Seriously, I thought they'd be a little better than last year, and I think so far my assessment is pretty close. They were/are put together wrong becuase of Hendry's fetishes. I will say I've been happy with DeRosa though. I didn't predict that.

http://www.daveyd.com/ludacris97.jpg That actually makes more sense than my poorly spelled word Ludicrous I curse my teachers, curse them all.

that lineup is pretty close to what they ran out there last nite...here is what they went with SS Cedeno 2B Patterson RF Murton 1B Hoffpauir C Soto CF Coats LF Kroeger 3B Moore Put Pie at the top of the order and substitute Lee for Hoffpauir and I'd almost take that over the Chi Cubs lineup.

Raisin, Rawaction, TT, any of our MiLB experts know when or if Soto is going to get the call up? Will we have to wait until Bowen and Hill have completely laid eggs?

O'Malley is really crapping the bed this year. Wow

Koye Hill Skip Shumaker

It's beyond absurd. It's ......... I don't know, what's a word for beyond absurd? Ludacris is the word you are looking for. Koye Hill Mike Fontenot Ryan Theriot Stellar.

With the way the Cubs played last night, this trade could be the spark of something big, like a 6-14 record in the next 20 games. That would be great.

yea Sammy!

They really look out of sorts. I wonder if the trade sort of shocked them.

That was Patterson. I was wrong. That was Barrett.

he should be honored to be leaving this franchise hahaha!

I sometimes just sit here and smile as I come home and read through the pages after an eventful day for our cubbies. i always just think to myself--man, I wish this board could have been here to hear what people said when the cubs got a terrible prespect named Sandberg and terrible hitting shortstop for Ivan DeJesus I'm getting real tired of this. Sandberg was never terrible and Greene knew exactly who he was getting as he worked for the Phillies for a number of years prior to cubs. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Ryne-Sandberg.shtml Is it that hard to really try to think? Most of the people who have posted in this thread have been more than rational with good reasons why they think the trade was bad, good, or indifferent. What's the temperature up there on that horse of yours?

Speaking of... Where did you hear this as he hasn't pitched in the minors yet?

Bowen is a former good prospect out of the Twins organization who had an absolutely awful season at the age of 24 in AA and then a little better season in AAA in 05. He had a 733 OPS as the Padres backup catcher last year, and has an 810 this year (age 26). He is reputed to be a strong defensive catcher, although that is in great dispute. He is a low BA, high walk, with decent but not great pop in his bat. Burke is a 19 year old drafted in the supplemental round who has been absolutely terrible his first two years in the minors, but still has a lot of tools that could possibly pan out. Good synopsis. I don't really think all that many people are angry.

I'm no draft expert, but I don't understand that at all. It seems to me that a team would want to go with BPA AND need. To me that was clearly Weiters. Now if the Cubs have concerns that he won't stick at catcher, I could see drafting someone else. I just seems that a team would want to at least think about the mid term future of their ball club when drafting.

I don't know if I would call myself indifferent, but I'm not really upset. I wish they would have drafted Weiters if they were going to deal Barrett. That's my gripe. Truffle, I'm just trying to look at Burke and see what the Cubs got. Frankly, I don't see the ceiling being all that high. He is young though. I'm definately not worked up about it. How isn't his ceiling high? He's unlikely to come close to it but he has a high ceiling. Well, first I should say I don't exactly know what a ceiling is except for one that actually sits under my roof and over my head. I don't buy into draft slot, subjective analysis, and "dunking" ability. I go by numbers. The numbers say he is a terrible professioanl ball player at every level he's been. To me that means his ceiling is low. A player's ceiling and $2.02 will get him a Venti cup of coffee at a Memphis Starbucks.

I don't know if I would call myself indifferent, but I'm not really upset. I wish they would have drafted Weiters if they were going to deal Barrett. That's my gripe. Truffle, I'm just trying to look at Burke and see what the Cubs got. Frankly, I don't see the ceiling being all that high. He is young though. I'm definately not worked up about it.

Sometimes a change is in order, not only for the team but for the player. Barrett, right, wrong, or indifferent was singled out early on as one of the trouble makers and therefore one of the scapegoats on this team for this year. Even if he went on to win the Batting Title, he still would have been tagged for the fight with Z, v 1.0. There were a number of things he was getting blamed for (justly or unjustly) in defense, game calling, team relations, mental errors, and base running blunders. Does this mean he was the only one doing it? No, others have been thrown out stealing 3rd and getting hung up between the bases. But consistently, he was one of the ones showing the least amount of proper judgement in his total game. I hope he does well in SD, and i am glad we got a return on him before he headed out on us via FA. This at least gives us a backup catcher under contract for next year. Blanco is headed for surgery and that may be touch and go And Hendry is not giving up this year just yet. That is a terrible way to justify a trade. Clubhouse chemistry doesn't matter, I don't care that fans (you especially) blamed him for things that you are now admitting were only partially his fault. His production this year is pretty much guaranteed to outpace Bowen's significantly since Bowen can't hit. This is still a terrible trade. Saying you had to trade a guy because he was marked for trading is asinine. Clubhouse chemistry doesn't matter? Did you play baseball ever in your life? Please no. God, please no.

The more I look at it the more I think this is a Jim "I like tools" Hendry moment. Last year in the Arizona Fall League he played in 45 games, k'd 56 times and put up thses numbers: .209/313/.294/.607 Not too different from this year and in Arizona!. I hope the Cubs send him back to Boise. Maybe he just needs a good hitting instructor.

How do you feel about Adam Dunn? I love Adam Dunn. Why do you ask? Are you trying to equate Kyler with Dunn? Just saying he's struck out a lot more times than games played (94Ks in 70 games)...so I guess he's abysmal too. No you are attempting to make a really bad compairson between one of the best hitters in MLB and a 19 year old who can't hold his own in low A ball. Not at all...nowhere have I ever said that he's Adam dunn...you just made a blanket statement that "Striking out more times than the number of games you've appeaed in is abysmal." (that's a direct quote)...and I just thougth it worthy of note that that's not always correct...and that just measuring # of Ks is not a good way to evaluate a guy. It is when he's also sporting these numbers .211/.305/.268/.572

How do you feel about Adam Dunn? I love Adam Dunn. Why do you ask? Are you trying to equate Kyler with Dunn? Just saying he's struck out a lot more times than games played (94Ks in 70 games)...so I guess he's abysmal too. No you are attempting to make a really bad compairson between one of the best hitters in MLB and a 19 year old who can't hold his own in low A ball. AT age 19 Dunn played 93 games in low A and struck out 64 times. He also posted a line of .307/.409/.476/.885 with 11 HRs. If Kyle Buke can do that next year I will be ecstatic.

How do you feel about Adam Dunn? I love Adam Dunn. Why do you ask? Are you trying to equate Kyler with Dunn?