you owe me $20, can't speak for derwood. this doesn't really matter frankly; penn st is making a bcs game either way if we win out. Shouldn't have to, if both Iowa and Penn State were to tie in 1st place since Iowa beat Penn State. Iowa hold the tie-breaker, don't they? again, doesn't matter. penn st would going to the bcs as a one-loss team regardless of who wins the conference. they'd be bcs-eligible and there's no way that psu doesn't get selected at large.