Sorry, the extrrrrrreeeeeme pessimism gets to me sometimes. It almost seems like people are going out of their way to make sure to be as mad and dissapointed as possible. To say we have an ace and 4 #5's, that's just crazy. No, it's not crazy at all. Everyone besides Z has performed pretty terribly for a less than insignificant period of time in the not so distant past. Is it pessimistic to say that? Probably. Probably? Of course it's pessimistic. You're assuming that Marquis pitches as poorly as last year, that Hill completely loses what he had in the second half of last year, that Lilly pitches like he did in his worst season (2005), that Miller doesn't get back any of what he had before his injuries, that Prior stays injured/ineffective, and that none of the kids stay healthy and prove they're worthy of a place in the rotation. That's how you end up with four #5 pitchers. It's really unlikely, and it's ridiculous to present this as something that's likely to happen in 2007. It's just as likely that everything goes right, but in reality, the results will be mixed.