Torrii Hunter anyone?

[minnesotacubsfan]

http://www.startribune.com/stories/509/5617772.html

 

basically, Hunter is owed $10 mill in 2006 and $12 mil in 2007...

 

would he be a nice CF in Wrigley? cubs give up Patterson and who else?

[LoneStarCubFan]

http://www.startribune.com/stories/509/5617772.html

 

basically, Hunter is owed $10 mill in 2006 and $12 mil in 2007...

 

would he be a nice CF in Wrigley? cubs give up Patterson and who else?

 

Anybody they want. Load the boat Jim. This is the guy.

[Magnetic Curses]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

[minnesotacubsfan]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

 

overrated more then Pierre??? no, I dont think so. he may be slightly overpaid, but the guy can hit...and I think Wrigley would help his power #'s.

[Magnetic Curses]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

 

overrated more then Pierre??? no, I dont think so. he may be slightly overpaid, but the guy can hit...and I think Wrigley would help his power #'s.

 

he can't hit. and if the homer-dome didn't help his power numbers, i don't know why wrigley would.

[brinoch]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

 

He also might lose a step with that ankle injury. I think he's overpaid at $10.75M, but I could see it happening. I'm not enamored of him, however.

[Derwood]

I wouldn't go so far as to say he "can't hit", but a career .267/.321/.458/.779 line isn't worth $10 million+ . Additionally, he only has 96 career steals.

 

Wrigley's outfield wall would prevent any of those highlight homer-robbing catches as well.

 

I'll take a pass on this one.

[Magnetic Curses]

I wouldn't go so far as to say he "can't hit", but a career .267/.321/.458/.779 line isn't worth $10 million+ . Additionally, he only has 96 career steals.

 

Wrigley's outfield wall would prevent any of those highlight homer-robbing catches as well.

 

I'll take a pass on this one.

 

well, he can't hit the way many think he can. he's not a premier CF, he's an ESPN hero, that's it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

WELL, OK. NO LOVE FOR TORRI. MAYBE I OVERATE HIM, BUT I DO THINK HE WOLD BE AN UPGRADE OVER EVERONE IN OUR OF CURRENTLY SAVE PATTERSON-ON-A-TEAR

[JC]

I'm surprised at the amount of dislike for Hunter. However, Hunter's center field prowess would be lessened by the fact that he wouldn't be able to rob homeruns in Wrigley. In Minneapolis, his height and jumping ability is worth more than if he played in Chicago.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm surprised at the amount of dislike for Hunter. However, Hunter's center field prowess would be lessened by the fact that he wouldn't be able to rob homeruns in Wrigley. In Minneapolis, his height and jumping ability is worth more than if he played in Chicago.

 

TRUE, HOWEVER IN STADIMS LIKE PITT, JUICEBOX, NEW BUSCH, MIL I THINK HIS D COULD BE AN ASSET, NOT MUCH IF ANY DROP OFF FROM PATTERSON BUT MORE RELIABLE OFFENSE

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Torii Hunter(if he had a few more PA's to be eligible) would be 8th among eligible CF's in OPS. That's pretty good, and unfortunately there's not a lot better out there. On the other hand, it's still only a .788 OPS, and we'd be paying over 10 million dollars for it. Additionally, there's no way you aren't going to overpay for Hunter given his ill-deserved reputation as a star in this league. I say pass on Torii. You're better off seeing if you could buy low on Lew Ford, or possibly hoping Hunter gets traded elsewhere to see if Damon's market comes back from the stratosphere.

[LoneStarCubFan]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're on crack.

 

Torii Hunter is a Gold Glove outfielder and a better hitter than anyone who appeared in the Cubs' outfield this year. And a better option than 36-year-old Brian Giles who everybody on this board has some sort of weird man-crush on.

 

Comparing Torii Hunter to Juan Pierre is beyond ridiculous. Have you even seen the guy play or are you just looking at numbers and nothing else?

[Magnetic Curses]

I'm surprised at the amount of dislike for Hunter. However, Hunter's center field prowess would be lessened by the fact that he wouldn't be able to rob homeruns in Wrigley. In Minneapolis, his height and jumping ability is worth more than if he played in Chicago.

 

TRUE, HOWEVER IN STADIMS LIKE PITT, JUICEBOX, NEW BUSCH, MIL I THINK HIS D COULD BE AN ASSET, NOT MUCH IF ANY DROP OFF FROM PATTERSON BUT MORE RELIABLE OFFENSE

 

we need to add obp, hunter has never had one better than .337. we'd be better off with giles in center for a season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

don't want him, we could do better. hunter is more overrated than pierre is.

 

he doesn't get on base terribly adeptly, he doesn't steal bases very efficiently, he has a little power but not enough to make up for what he doesn't have. he'd be regularly booed at mid-season

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're on crack.

 

Torii Hunter is a Gold Glove outfielder and a better hitter than anyone who appeared in the Cubs' outfield this year. And a better option than 36-year-old Brian Giles who everybody on this board has some sort of weird man-crush on.

 

Comparing Torii Hunter to Juan Pierre is beyond ridiculous. Have you even seen the guy play or are you just looking at numbers and nothing else?

 

Giles is so much better than Hunter it isn't funny. His OBP is what, 100 points better?

[TheDude]

Damon won't command a whole lot more than Hunter. Damon is superior offensively. Both have the right character, but for the cost differential, I'll take Damon.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Torii Hunter(if he had a few more PA's to be eligible) would be 8th among eligible CF's in OPS. That's pretty good, and unfortunately there's not a lot better out there. On the other hand, it's still only a .788 OPS, and we'd be paying over 10 million dollars for it. Additionally, there's no way you aren't going to overpay for Hunter given his ill-deserved reputation as a star in this league. I say pass on Torii. You're better off seeing if you could buy low on Lew Ford, or possibly hoping Hunter gets traded elsewhere to see if Damon's market comes back from the stratosphere.

 

Johnny Damon will be 32 on opening day '06.

 

Brian Giles will be 35.

 

Torii Hunter will be 30.

[goonys evil twin]

Comparing Torii Hunter to Juan Pierre is beyond ridiculous. Have you even seen the guy play or are you just looking at numbers and nothing else?

 

He's a highlight reel star, but not a true one. He's a John Kruk/Harold Reynolds kind of player, not a GM who is trying to field the best possible team kind of player.

 

He's a $4-5m player, not a $10+ million player.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Damon won't command a whole lot more than Hunter. Damon is superior offensively. Both have the right character, but for the cost differential, I'll take Damon.

 

I agree that Damon would be better, but I wouldn't pay either 10 million, and especially not for the years that Damon wants. Damon's numbers away from Fenway aren't that much different than Hunter's.

[daske17]

Giles is so much better than Hunter it isn't funny. His OBP is what, 100 points better?

 

Would anyone consider Hunter a good stop-gap until Pie is ready in 2007? He only has one year left on his contract, so it isn't like he necessarily be in our long-term plans.

 

I'd take Hunter over another year of Patterson, that's for sure.

 

And, with this year's free agent class, it isn't like there are that many quality outfielders available to us.

[Magnetic Curses]

Damon won't command a whole lot more than Hunter. Damon is superior offensively. Both have the right character, but for the cost differential, I'll take Damon.

 

i'd pretty much welcome any alternative to hunter, who's .267 career average is not a sign that he's been a good hitter.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Giles is so much better than Hunter it isn't funny. His OBP is what, 100 points better?

 

Would anyone consider Hunter a good stop-gap until Pie is ready in 2007? He only has one year left on his contract, so it isn't like he necessarily be in our long-term plans.

 

I'd take Hunter over another year of Patterson, that's for sure.

 

And, with this year's free agent class, it isn't like there are that many quality outfielders available to us.

 

Hunter in CF for a year then move him to the corner spot Murton's not occupying.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Giles is so much better than Hunter it isn't funny. His OBP is what, 100 points better?

 

Would anyone consider Hunter a good stop-gap until Pie is ready in 2007? He only has one year left on his contract, so it isn't like he necessarily be in our long-term plans.

 

I'd take Hunter over another year of Patterson, that's for sure.

 

And, with this year's free agent class, it isn't like there are that many quality outfielders available to us.

 

Think about what Hunter's cost will be compared to his use to us as a stopgap. It's not worth it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Torii Hunter(if he had a few more PA's to be eligible) would be 8th among eligible CF's in OPS. That's pretty good, and unfortunately there's not a lot better out there. On the other hand, it's still only a .788 OPS, and we'd be paying over 10 million dollars for it. Additionally, there's no way you aren't going to overpay for Hunter given his ill-deserved reputation as a star in this league. I say pass on Torii. You're better off seeing if you could buy low on Lew Ford, or possibly hoping Hunter gets traded elsewhere to see if Damon's market comes back from the stratosphere.

 

WE'RE NOT GETTING LEW FORD, TOO UCH VALUE FOR MPLS TO GIVE UP...

 

I WOULD AGREE 10 MIL IS ABIT MUCH FOR HIM, BUT DO YOU THINK HIS AVAILIBILITY WILL HELP THE MARKET ON CF?

[Magnetic Curses]

Giles is so much better than Hunter it isn't funny. His OBP is what, 100 points better?

 

Would anyone consider Hunter a good stop-gap until Pie is ready in 2007? He only has one year left on his contract, so it isn't like he necessarily be in our long-term plans.

 

I'd take Hunter over another year of Patterson, that's for sure.

 

And, with this year's free agent class, it isn't like there are that many quality outfielders available to us.

 

Think about what Hunter's cost will be compared to his use to us as a stopgap. It's not worth it.

 

hunter is not a stopgap, nor a long-term opportunity. his numbers are mediocre, even if he looks good being mediocre.