Hill, Rusch, Williams........Is there anyone else???

[abuck1220]

Perhaps the Cubs just don't draft or scout well?? People were griping about Choi, Hill, DuBois, and Cruz never getting shots and where are they now?

 

I liked Cruz, but admit that I was way off. Oh well.

 

cruz was fantastic last season out of atlanta's pen. and he was flat out dominating at AAA this month.

 

dubois is in his first big league season, and he hasn't really been given consistent playing time. and even with the inconsisten playing time + a trade, he's slugging .453, which isn't awful. feliz, luis gonzalez, and overbay slug at about that clip.

 

hill's a decent utility guy...career .345ish obp. that's barrett, walker, winn, milton bradley range.

 

choi's got a near .800 OPS. better than piazza, castillo, feliz, lawton, wilkerson.

 

so while none of those guys are stars, they've all had some success...it's not like they're out of baseball or anything. and they're all still young...and most importantly, for the teams that have them, cheap.

 

Maybe I was right about Cruz after all! :D

 

Choi had a 3 game stretch where he hit a bunch of home runs and has done little since. LA could really use some hitting, and the guy can't even start consistently. Sure, sure blame it on Tracy though. :roll:

 

did you not read the end of my post?

 

so while none of those guys are stars, they've all had some success...it's not like they're out of baseball or anything. and they're all still young...and most importantly, for the teams that have them, cheap.

 

So they're getting "shots" but Murton and Hill aren't?? They're playing sporadically just like the Murton and the rest. People would still be beating the "I Hate Dusty" drum if Choi was still in Chicago.

 

hill got four starts. murton just got demoted. if you can't tell the difference between those situations and cruz, hill and choi seeing action in games for the last 3-4 years, i don't know what to tell you.

[NewUserName]

look at what cleveland has done. 3 years ago they make a HUGE COMMITMENT to youth, not a 3 game trial. They are NOW a better team than the Cubs and will be ALOT better next year. Some of the players that were stated above might have become very good players if the Cubs would have made a COMMITMENT to them not just a trial.

 

I dont blame this all on Dusty. This has been a ongoing problem with the Cubs for my entire lifetime. This is something that ownership has got to buy into then trickle it down to the lowest minor league systems. My guess is even if the Cubs did this for one year they would not like the one year results and bring in a bunch of mediocre 30 year olds the next year. Then they will say something like "We can be competitive in this division"

 

I have said this before and I will say it again The Cubs have only had 3 players come from their system and become a regular player in my lifetime of watching them( I am not young either) In the same time span I am guessing not one other team has had less than 10.

 

Untill you make a commitment to developing and playing youngsters you are just playing the lottery with other teams talent. Sometimes you win 84,89,98,03 but most of the time you lose, every other year.