Modern Era (Vets Committee) Ballot

[OleMissCub]

Ranked by their WAR

 

Lou Whitaker 75.1

Dwight Evans 67.1

Tommy John 61.5

Ted Simmons 50.3

Dale Murphy 46.5

Thurman Munson 46.1

Dave Parker 40.1

Steve Garvey 38.1

 

Ranked by HOF Monitor score

 

Steve Garvey 130

Dave Parker 124

Ted Simmons 124

Dale Murphy 116

Tommy John 112

Lou Whitaker 92

Thurman Munson 90

Dwight Evans 70

 

Hell, all of those people are better than Baines so you may as well put them all in. Personally I'd go with:

 

- Whitaker - bit silly to have Trammel in there and not Whitaker.

- Simmons - catcher is the most underrepresented position in the HOF. Simmons played almost 1800 games at catcher, 8 time all-star, 118 OPS+

- Munson - he gets the discount on account of tragedy. I think if you're halfway through a career on a clear path to the HOF and tragedy strikes, then you should be given a pass. He'd have been an easy lock for the HOF if he had survived.

[OleMissCub]

Was screwing around BR regarding Murphy to see who else had back to back MVP's and started looking at Maris' page and realized that they were essentially the same dude.

 

Their 162 Game Avg seasons:

 

Maris: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .260/.345/.476

Murph: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .265/.346/.469

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Was screwing around BR regarding Murphy to see who else had back to back MVP's and started looking at Maris' page and realized that they were essentially the same dude.

 

Their 162 Game Avg seasons:

 

Maris: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .260/.345/.476

Murph: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .265/.346/.469

 

crunching the number a little more and murphy eclipses him in just about every offensive category. then again, he did have 2,800 more at-bats than maris.

 

aside: murphy had some wacky l/r splits during his mvp campaigns.

[OleMissCub]

Was screwing around BR regarding Murphy to see who else had back to back MVP's and started looking at Maris' page and realized that they were essentially the same dude.

 

Their 162 Game Avg seasons:

 

Maris: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .260/.345/.476

Murph: 30 HR, 94 RBI, .265/.346/.469

 

crunching the number a little more and murphy eclipses him in just about every offensive category. then again, he did have 2,800 more at-bats than maris.

 

aside: murphy had some wacky l/r splits during his mvp campaigns.

 

Yeah, I certainly wasn't referring to their total careers, just their slash lines and 162 game average.

 

And wow, those L/R splits are crazy. For those who don't want to look it up:

 

1982

vs RHP: .261/.356/.466

vs LHP: .351/.453/.649

 

1982

vs RHP: .321/.416/.593

vs LHP: .252/.330.396

[Post Count Padder]

I still can't get over Whitaker not being in. I think this rights that wrong. Also Simmons and Munson have to go in. You can't have a list of the best catchers of the last 50 years without them.