Game 2: bears at bucs, noon on fox

[Guest]

 

And you are jumping all over the "I told you so" game after 1 poor rushing game (where the run was abandoned pretty much after halftime) after being borderline elite last year and very good in week 1.

 

I mean, regression to the mean is not supporting his case after 1 outlier game.

Take a two game average. That's 12.5% of an NFL season.

 

But they did fine last week.

[jersey cubs fan]

So the Glennon led offense has produced a total of 17 points in 2 weeks. Not going to go very far if the offense keeps scoring 8.5 PPG.

 

And yes it's not all on Glennon but he's certainly a big part of it.

It's on pace fo signing glennon and not employing wide receivers

 

But he couldn't envision his top 2 guys going down. It's not like Jeffery would help if he was hurt, too.

"Top"

[Thrilho]

Aside from the additional injuries, this was the ideal thing to happen this week for the year end win total. Glennon is out and Trubisky is in. They gave Glennon the whole game to show something rather than pull him at half time, so Glennon has zero cards to play in the "this is unfair" department. As he walked down the sideline after the TD throw he got zero pats on the back in the shot they showed, contrasted against the shot of Thompson getting a bunch. That doesn't mean much, but after that bad a game I'd guess he's completely lost the locker room.

 

What more could a Bears fan hope for at this point in the season? Glennon got his shot in two tough games and lost them, while showing nothing. They have got to go to Trubisky and they will for Pittsburgh. From there, I think we can start evaluating how good the running game is and how ok these receivers can be.

 

Glennon was awful. He's been locked on to one receiver at all times, and it's usually the last receiver he threw to or Tarik Cohen. He hasn't gotten the TEs into the passing game. Hasn't hit virtually anything over the intermediate middle. Virtually every pass runs the receiver into a defender or is to a receiver who is completely covered already. That might be the receivers not getting open, from a couple posts I saw on another board that had some screen shots and gifs he has been missing wide open guys all over the place.

 

I think just getting a guy who can go through some progressions and have the confidence to attempt a pass in the 10-15 range opens up a lot things. I think these tight ends are going to be pretty good. Thompson and Wright looked decent at the end and Bellamy was getting some decent separation in the 10-15 range early in the game. Gentry I still think will be good. Throw in Cohen and the passing game could look so much better than it does right now.

 

Defense didn't look good. They were defending short fields all day, but the pressure wasn't there. The secondary was playing a defense that kept nearly everything in front of them which I liked, but then you've got to get to the QB. Eddie Jackson had a good game, making a lot of tackles and didn't seem to blow many coverages. It just seemed like the Bucs were beating the Bears with 1 on 1s, but where they kept Julio in check last week, Evans just ate them up this week.

 

The defense needs another OLB to start getting some pressure, because so far Willie Young has been awful. Had at least big penalty this week to go with his big one last week, and has been invisible. McPhee hasn't shown up anywhere, Goldman and Bullard have been ghosts, Floyd did nothing in the first half. They were backed up a lot off the turnovers, but they didn't put up much of a fight. It wasn't time of possession either. For the first half I think the Bears held it 17 minutes to the Bucs 14. It was all just quick strikes.

 

I still think they could be pretty good, and with the lift the Bears get from Trubisky I'll stick with the 8-8 prediction. The rest of the schedule after week 4 is just not that scary, and I think Mitch will be that good.

[Tim]

 

I mean, regression to the mean is not supporting his case after 1 outlier game.

Take a two game average. That's 12.5% of an NFL season.

 

But they did fine last week.

They rank 19th in the NFL in yards per game.

[jersey cubs fan]

[Thrilho]

Madness

[Derwood]

Madness

 

If you skipped watching the game and squint at the box score, Glennon completed 68% of his passes for 300 yards

 

Not sure what Fox's excuse is, though

[Thrilho]

Madness

 

If you skipped watching the game and squint at the box score, Glennon completed 68% of his passes for 300 yards

 

Not sure what Fox's excuse is, though

I will say that if I was Fox I'd say all week that Glennon is starting even if I know right now that it's Mitch. Let the Steelers figure out who to prepare for. Also, unless he and Pace are on the same page and in agreement he can't really answer that question any other way than "no." Any other answer throws all kinds of chum in the water for the media. It would be baffling if they really gave Glennon another start.

[tfarks]

Fox can say No to the media as much as he likes. He's thinking about it right now.

[LeonDurham]

The Bears would've been better off with Cutler. At least he has an arm and can move.

 

Glennon is brutal. If he can't avoid a turnover, he's beyond useless.

[jersey cubs fan]

Madness

 

If you skipped watching the game and squint at the box score, Glennon completed 68% of his passes for 300 yards

 

Not sure what Fox's excuse is, though

I will say that if I was Fox I'd say all week that Glennon is starting even if I know right now that it's Mitch. Let the Steelers figure out who to prepare for. Also, unless he and Pace are on the same page and in agreement he can't really answer that question any other way than "no." Any other answer throws all kinds of chum in the water for the media. It would be baffling if they really gave Glennon another start.

I thought a good intro would have been 1 series to start, scripted plays, vs Tampa, unannounced. Then glennon takes over. Wouldn't do that at home though.

[17 Seconds]

perfect time to quit the nfl guys

[Thrilho]

 

If you skipped watching the game and squint at the box score, Glennon completed 68% of his passes for 300 yards

 

Not sure what Fox's excuse is, though

I will say that if I was Fox I'd say all week that Glennon is starting even if I know right now that it's Mitch. Let the Steelers figure out who to prepare for. Also, unless he and Pace are on the same page and in agreement he can't really answer that question any other way than "no." Any other answer throws all kinds of chum in the water for the media. It would be baffling if they really gave Glennon another start.

I thought a good intro would have been 1 series to start, scripted plays, vs Tampa, unannounced. Then glennon takes over. Wouldn't do that at home though.

Even if he somehow doesn't start next week, this was a good game because we know it's not going to be any of that 8 weeks of Glennon. Or where David was saying the Vegas line on Trubisky games was 1.5 or something. That was always dumb but now we've gotten the Glennon curb stomping game where he actually threw a pick 6 and his lack of pocket presence caused another fumble deep in their own territory.

 

Whatever happens in the next couple, that taste isn't going to wash out. As soon as Trubisky is ready to go in without getting killed he's going to be in there. I'd put money that he at least finishes the game next week.

[davell]

I'm not sure how to process this. Glennon is awful. No doubt there. Fox is hanging himself too, which is good.

 

But, I'm not 100% sure I'd throw Trubisky in there yet. The line is beat up, the receivers don't exist, and they've got a few more really tough games in a row. I'd be fine with him starting against Pittsburgh, but I'd also be OK with waiting a few more weeks before handing things over.

[LeonDurham]

If I'm Ryan Pace, I'm fine with Glennon starting for a couple more weeks in tough games that they aren't going to win anyways.

 

If I'm John Fox, I'm thinking I'm fighting for my job and Trubisky gives me my best chance of winning so I would just play him.

[davell]

I think Fox is stupid enough to think Glennon gives him the best chance to win.

[LeonDurham]

I wouldn't hate it if Glennon keeps starting. I want to see Trubisky like everyone else, but this season is lost. The team is banged up. There are no receivers. If Glennon leads them to another 3-13 record, Fox will be gone and they can get a king's ransom for the pick.

[Guest]

I wouldn't hate it if Glennon keeps starting. I want to see Trubisky like everyone else, but this season is lost. The team is banged up. There are no receivers. If Glennon leads them to another 3-13 record, Fox will be gone and they can get a king's ransom for the pick.

 

not ready to write off what I wait for 8 months of the year after two weeks.

[Guest]

Take a two game average. That's 12.5% of an NFL season.

 

But they did fine last week.

They rank 19th in the NFL in yards per game.

 

yeah, but that's after one bad game. they averaged 6.6 yards per rush the week before. smallest of sample sizes. ONE BAD GAME.

 

I hate intellectual dishonesty.

[Guest]

I mean as banged up as the line is, they gave up 1 sack yesterday. They didn't run block well, but Glennon was barely pressured.

[Tim]

 

But they did fine last week.

They rank 19th in the NFL in yards per game.

 

yeah, but that's after one bad game. they averaged 6.6 yards per rush the week before. smallest of sample sizes. ONE BAD GAME.

 

I hate intellectual dishonesty.

I'm using double the sample size you are and you complain about my intellectual honesty?

[jersey cubs fan]

I wouldn't hate it if Glennon keeps starting. I want to see Trubisky like everyone else, but this season is lost. The team is banged up. There are no receivers. If Glennon leads them to another 3-13 record, Fox will be gone and they can get a king's ransom for the pick.

 

not ready to write off what I wait for 8 months of the year after two weeks.

How long you wait doesn't really matter when a 5 win caliber team shows up.

[jersey cubs fan]

I mean as banged up as the line is, they gave up 1 sack yesterday. They didn't run block well, but Glennon was barely pressured.

True, he wasn't pressured all that much, but he sure as horsefeathers played like he was.

[Guest]

They rank 19th in the NFL in yards per game.

 

yeah, but that's after one bad game. they averaged 6.6 yards per rush the week before. smallest of sample sizes. ONE BAD GAME.

 

I hate intellectual dishonesty.

I'm using double the sample size you are and you complain about my intellectual honesty?

 

I don't think you even know what you mean anymore.

[Guest]

I mean as banged up as the line is, they gave up 1 sack yesterday. They didn't run block well, but Glennon was barely pressured.

True, he wasn't pressured all that much, but he sure as horsefeathers played like he was.

 

Sure did.