2017 NCAA Mock Tourney Selection

[UMFan83]

That's why it's open discussion because the past two years the secret balloting achieved little when I was doing everything myself. I have a plan, though.

 

I figured as much...I think last year I started participating and then couldn't finish. I have time to kill, at least during M-F so figured I would contribute if there was any benefit. You seem to have a pretty good grasp on things through...up to you :)

[bukie]

No, by all means contribute, everyone contribute. Reading me having a discussion with myself is boring. I'm setting up a blind selection for the top 8 based on everyone's thoughts for the 12 best teams.

[bukie]

Vermont rolled in the America East semis, and moves on to the final.

Gonzaga and St. Mary's both made the WCC final.

UNC Wilmington won the CAA over Charleston, so UNCW is off the at-large board and on the auto-bid board.

ETSU won the Southern auto bid.

Iona won the MAAC bid.

The Horizon final will be 10 seed Milwaukee vs 4 seed Northern Kentucky. If Milwaukee wins, they are a shoo-in for the first four.

[bukie]

So, state of the selection...

 

Here are the current auto bids (7 of 32 set):

ACC:

America East: Vermont/Albany

American:

A-10:

Atlantic Sun: Florida Gulf Coast

Big 12:

Big East:

Big Sky:

Big South: Winthrop

Big Ten:

Big West:

Colonial: UNC-Wilmington

CUSA:

Horizon: Northern Kentucky/Milwaukee

Ivy:

MAAC: Iona

MAC:

MEAC:

MVC: Wichita State

MWC:

NEC: Mount St. Mary's/St. Francis (PA)

OVC: Jacksonville State

Pac-12:

Patriot: Bucknell/Lehigh

SEC:

SoCon: East Tennessee State

Southland:

SWAC:

Summit: Omaha/South Dakota State

Sun Belt:

WAC:

WCC: Gonzaga/St. Mary's

 

At large pool (67 potentials for 35 to 48 bids):

ACC: Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Louisville, Miami FL, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

American: Cincinnati, Houston, SMU

A-10: Dayton, Rhode Island, VCU

Big East: Butler, Creighton, Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova, Xavier

Big 12: Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia

B1G: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin

Colonial: Charleston

CUSA: Middle Tennessee

Ivy: Princeton

MAC: Akron

MVC: Illinois State

MWC: Boise State, Nevada

Pac-12: Arizona, California, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Utah

SEC: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

WCC: BYU, Gonzaga, St. Mary's

[bukie]

So from that, who are your top 16, and what 10 teams can safely be eliminated from at-large consideration (since even eliminating 10 teams from that list leaves at least 9 too many)?

[UMFan83]

So from that, who are your top 16, and what 10 teams can safely be eliminated from at-large consideration (since even eliminating 10 teams from that list leaves at least 9 too many)?

 

top 16 hasnt changed since yesterday

 

I would eliminate these 10 teams:

 

TCU

Texas Tech

Charleston

Princeton

Akron

Boise State

Alabama

Tennessee

Texas A&M

BYU

[SouthSideRyan]

Eliminate

 

Charleston

Middle Tennessee

Princeton

Akron

Boise St.

Utah

Houston

Utah

Georgia

BYU

Edited March 7, 2017 by SouthSideRyan

[UMFan83]

I am fine with independent opinions and not being influenced by the "experts" but Bracket Matrix has Rhode Island as their 1st team out...do you really not believe they are one of the first 9 teams out of the bracket?

[SouthSideRyan]

Nope they should've been my 11th team, meant to delete them and not Utah. Amended.

[SouthSideRyan]

Regarding the 5 you have out that I don't, I've got all of them as needing to do some serious damage in their conference tourneys to make it.

 

I'm also not sure I see a path for Nevada.

 

And then I have Cal, Illinois, Indiana, Rhode Island, and Clemson as begging to be left out, which brings me to 2 teams short.

 

And that doesn't get into teams like Iowa, Syracuse, or Vandy who should really win their first game.

[bukie]

10 I'd remove:

Charleston

Akron

Boise State

Clemson

Indiana

TCU

Texas Tech

Alabama

BYU

Tennessee

[bukie]

Northern Kentucky wins the Horizon.

[SouthSideRyan]

Mount St. Mary's, a solid first Four 16 seed candidate wins NEC.

[SouthSideRyan]

South Dakota State wins the Summit.

[bukie]

Gonzaga wins the WCC.

[bukie]

Big board as of this morning:

 

Here are the current auto bids (11 of 32 set):

ACC:

America East: Vermont/Albany

American:

A-10:

Atlantic Sun: Florida Gulf Coast

Big 12:

Big East:

Big Sky:

Big South: Winthrop

Big Ten:

Big West:

Colonial: UNC-Wilmington

CUSA:

Horizon: Northern Kentucky

Ivy:

MAAC: Iona

MAC:

MEAC:

MVC: Wichita State

MWC:

NEC: Mount St. Mary's

OVC: Jacksonville State

Pac-12:

Patriot: Bucknell/Lehigh

SEC:

SoCon: East Tennessee State

Southland:

SWAC:

Summit: South Dakota State

Sun Belt:

WAC:

WCC: Gonzaga

 

At large pool (57 potentials for 36 to 47 bids):

ACC: Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Louisville, Miami FL, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

American: Cincinnati, Houston, SMU

A-10: Dayton, Rhode Island, VCU

Big East: Butler, Creighton, Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova, Xavier

Big 12: Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia

B1G: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin

CUSA: Middle Tennessee

MVC: Illinois State

MWC: Nevada

Pac-12: Arizona, California, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Utah

SEC: Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

WCC: St. Mary's

 

Protected seed potebtials:

Gonzaga

Villanova

Kansas

North Carolina

Kentucky

Duke

Baylor

Louisville

West Virginia

Virginia

UCLA

Arizona

Oregon

Purdue

Florida

Florida State

SMU

Cincinnati

Edited March 8, 2017 by bukie

[bukie]

I'm going to set up a blind poll based on nitty-gritty numbers for each protected seed potential, but won't get it until this evening. Until then the next steps are to rank the one bid entrants from the bottom and start sorting through the remaining at large bids.

[SouthSideRyan]

From 68 on: Per unspoken rules, one of the MEAC or SWAC teams would need to be moved out of the play-in games, but really I don't have a huge difference from SD State through TX Southern.

 

Mt St. Mary's

NC Central

New Orleans

TX Southern

North Dakota

UC Irvine

Jacksonville St

No. KY

SD St.

NMSU

Iona

Winthrop

Bucknell

Ohio

Vermont

FL Gulf

Princeton

MTSU

ETSU

UNCW

Nevada

Arlington

[UMFan83]

I'm going to set up a blind poll based on nitty-gritty numbers for each protected seed potential, but won't get it until this evening. Until then the next steps are to rank the one bid entrants from the bottom and start sorting through the remaining at large bids.

 

I have to be perfectly honest, I would have a really hard time ranking those teams without pouring through the resumes of each one. I might have to sit this step out :(

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm going to set up a blind poll based on nitty-gritty numbers for each protected seed potential, but won't get it until this evening. Until then the next steps are to rank the one bid entrants from the bottom and start sorting through the remaining at large bids.

 

I have to be perfectly honest, I would have a really hard time ranking those teams without pouring through the resumes of each one. I might have to sit this step out :(

 

Poring over 1-bid conferences might be my favorite part of the process. You learn a lot that you can the misapply in gambling events.

[SpongeWorthy]

what happens to USC when we lose to a fultz-less washington team tonight?

[bukie]

I'm going to set up a blind poll based on nitty-gritty numbers for each protected seed potential, but won't get it until this evening. Until then the next steps are to rank the one bid entrants from the bottom and start sorting through the remaining at large bids.

 

I have to be perfectly honest, I would have a really hard time ranking those teams without pouring through the resumes of each one. I might have to sit this step out :(

What would your next 12 be on the board after the 18 liated?

[bukie]

Fun fact: In 2018 the B1G wanted to have the conference tournament at MSG, but it was booked for the Big East tournament, so instead, the B1G tournament is being bumped up a week in 2018 so it can be at MSG.

[bukie]

Clemson lost to Duke in the ACC second round.

[bukie]

I'm going to set up a blind poll based on nitty-gritty numbers for each protected seed potential, but won't get it until this evening. Until then the next steps are to rank the one bid entrants from the bottom and start sorting through the remaining at large bids.

 

I have to be perfectly honest, I would have a really hard time ranking those teams without pouring through the resumes of each one. I might have to sit this step out :(

That seals it, doing a nitty gritty on every one bid league.