Last Bears game for 9 months @ Vikings

[David]

Counterpoint: Cutler is a broken dildo, and since the Bears are a lock to be garbage next year (DON'T DENY THIS), the least they could do is grant us the minor enjoyment of Cutler getting the boot.

 

Plus if you're gonna suck, suck hard.

 

3-13

 

they already suck hard. any qb that tried to step in for him with this garbage team was decimated and/or threw 1,000 picks.

 

yeah, this should be the rock bottom point. the injuries didn't help that record, either.

 

2015's draft looked mixed at first and now looks awful after two, but pace had a very good draft in 2016. have another very good one in 2017, make some good signings, and start the upswing next year with jay as the bridge at QB.

 

i can't think of anything more disheartening or depressing than if the bears have another awful year next year. it shouldn't take that long.

 

don't we have a horsefeathers ton of cap space too? even if jay is kept around and alshon is franchised?

[WrigleyField 22]

Counterpoint: Cutler is a broken dildo, and since the Bears are a lock to be garbage next year (DON'T DENY THIS), the least they could do is grant us the minor enjoyment of Cutler getting the boot.

 

Plus if you're gonna suck, suck hard.

 

3-13

 

they already suck hard. any qb that tried to step in for him with this garbage team was decimated and/or threw 1,000 picks.

 

yeah, this should be the rock bottom point. the injuries didn't help that record, either.

 

2015's draft looked mixed at first and now looks awful after two, but pace had a very good draft in 2016. have another very good one in 2017, make some good signings, and start the upswing next year with jay as the bridge at QB.

 

i can't think of anything more disheartening or depressing than if the bears have another awful year next year. it shouldn't take that long.

 

don't we have a horsefeathers ton of cap space too? even if jay is kept around and alshon is franchised?

Yea unfortunately there wont be a whole lot to spend it on. Blow the bank on Eric Berry.

[Sammy Sofa]

Counterpoint: Cutler is a broken dildo, and since the Bears are a lock to be garbage next year (DON'T DENY THIS), the least they could do is grant us the minor enjoyment of Cutler getting the boot.

 

Plus if you're gonna suck, suck hard.

 

3-13

 

they already suck hard. any qb that tried to step in for him with this garbage team was decimated and/or threw 1,000 picks.

 

They're gonna suck next season, too; old ass, crappy Cutler probably nets them MAYBE 2-3 more wins, barring the miracle he doesn't break yet again. I'm rooting for debacle Bears. Couldn't happen to a more deserving organization. Plus maybe it drives a few McCaskeys into the grave.

[jersey cubs fan]

Counterpoint: Cutler is a broken dildo, and since the Bears are a lock to be garbage next year (DON'T DENY THIS), the least they could do is grant us the minor enjoyment of Cutler getting the boot.

 

Plus if you're gonna suck, suck hard.

 

3-13

 

they already suck hard. any qb that tried to step in for him with this garbage team was decimated and/or threw 1,000 picks.

 

They're gonna suck next season, too; old ass, crappy Cutler probably nets them MAYBE 2-3 more wins, barring the miracle he doesn't break yet again. I'm rooting for debacle Bears. Couldn't happen to a more deserving organization. Plus maybe it drives a few McCaskeys into the grave.

 

That's fine, you can root for them to suck for whatever reason you hate them.

 

But there's no reason this team has to be incredibly bad 4 seasons in a row. There is no excuse to not make significant improvements next season.

[FlyTheW]

Cutler is probably done in Chicago because everyone seems to have moved on but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to bring him back for one more year. Worst case scenario is he sucks which doesn't matter because the Bears are going to be bad. Best case scenario is he is worthwhile and you can actually get something for him instead of straight up cutting him. I get the salary cap room you save by cutting him before the season hut what is a rebuilding team going to do with that saved money anyways?

[Sammy Sofa]

But there's no reason this team has to be incredibly bad 4 seasons in a row. There is no excuse to not make significant improvements next season.

 

Unfortunately the Bears are faithfully the cliche "doing the same things over and over and over again and expecting different results" definition of insanity.

 

https://youtu.be/WD73a1trdJ0

[FlyTheW]

 

3-13

 

they already suck hard. any qb that tried to step in for him with this garbage team was decimated and/or threw 1,000 picks.

 

They're gonna suck next season, too; old ass, crappy Cutler probably nets them MAYBE 2-3 more wins, barring the miracle he doesn't break yet again. I'm rooting for debacle Bears. Couldn't happen to a more deserving organization. Plus maybe it drives a few McCaskeys into the grave.

 

That's fine, you can root for them to suck for whatever reason you hate them.

 

But there's no reason this team has to be incredibly bad 4 seasons in a row. There is no excuse to not make significant improvements next season.

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

[jersey cubs fan]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

[David]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

Exactly this.

[WrigleyField 22]

Cutler is probably done in Chicago because everyone seems to have moved on but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to bring him back for one more year. Worst case scenario is he sucks which doesn't matter because the Bears are going to be bad. Best case scenario is he is worthwhile and you can actually get something for him instead of straight up cutting him. I get the salary cap room you save by cutting him before the season hut what is a rebuilding team going to do with that saved money anyways?

I do think they could take a wait and see approach. At the very least, Cutler is the only leverage they hold at the position, so they shouldn't announce anything until they have a different plan ready.

[Guest]

Davell, you're looking at it all wrong. I don't know why you'd choose to look at each player individually and judge whether they are "top half", that's just a way to make matters look worse.

 

Chicago's front 7 is top 10.

 

Their secondary is one of the worst.

 

As far as their line goes, it's not bad, but the tackles aren't good. The interior will be a strength, though.

 

If Jeffery stays, their offensive skill players are a strength, save QB, which is obviously the most important. But there aren't any more holes to fill than really most teams have. They need a secondary, OTs, and a QB. But if they find an Ot, the QB position will be much easier to fill.

Your analysis of this team suggests they did not go 3-13 this year or lose 34 games in the last three seasons.

 

And yours suggests that they weren't destroyed by injuries this season.

 

I don't think they're that far away. What they did 2 seasons ago means nothing, and in the NFL, fortunes change in a second. but I don't think anyone would disagree that Chicago's front 7 are a strength, along with their offensive skill players, especially with the emergence of Meredith.

 

A good draft and a couple of FA signings could put the Bears in the playoffs. I think the best way to do that is to trade for Garoppolo and use the higher 2nd round picks to improve the secondary.

[Sammy Sofa]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

Exactly this.

 

Sure, but the Bears have descended into Browns-land.

[Guest]

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

Exactly this.

 

Sure, but the Bears have descended into Browns-land.

 

Not even close.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

 

But then you blow your opportunity at the top QB pick in 2018. I want Cutler back-as a tackling dummy-but I don't want to win any games. Maybe 1.

[Guest]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

 

But then you blow your opportunity at the top QB pick in 2018. I want Cutler back-as a tackling dummy-but I don't want to win any games. Maybe 1.

 

judging from his statements recently, Pace is feeling the pressure and wants to win soon. there is no third year of rebuilding, GMs don't get that long, coaches don't get that long, players barely even get that long.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

Exactly this.

 

Sure, but the Bears have descended into Browns-land.

 

Not even close.

 

Even Browns fans had a time when the Browns as we know them were just a new thing for them.

 

Cubs fans in 1945 had no idea what they were in store for.

 

You get to be a witness to the birth of history, sulley. Savor it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

 

But then you blow your opportunity at the top QB pick in 2018. I want Cutler back-as a tackling dummy-but I don't want to win any games. Maybe 1.

[jersey cubs fan]

but I don't think anyone would disagree that Chicago's front 7 are a strength, along with their offensive skill players, especially with the emergence of Meredith.

 

I don't think a team in the league fears going up against the Bears front 7 or their skill players.

[FlyTheW]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

 

But then you blow your opportunity at the top QB pick in 2018. I want Cutler back-as a tackling dummy-but I don't want to win any games. Maybe 1.

Fox and Pace (to an extent) are going to be fighting for the jobs this year. I don't think they'll be worse next season than this. I expect 6 or 7 wins.

[David]

Not sure what improvements you can make outside of staying healthy. Either way the Bears are going to be bad again next year. None of these rookie QB's are coming in and changing anything and Brian Hoyer isn't that guy either.

 

My off-season QB plan is signing Tyrod Taylor and taking a QB after the 3rd round.

You spend the 3rd pick in the draft on an actual impact player that will play and produce in 2017 (not a QB), bring back alshon and cutler and a good chunk of the injured players plus a FA or two and you could have a respectable 2017 season. Being 3-13 this year doesn't mean they have to be bad in 2017. This is the NFL.

 

 

But then you blow your opportunity at the top QB pick in 2018. I want Cutler back-as a tackling dummy-but I don't want to win any games. Maybe 1.

 

sucking ass next year is a funny definition of "opportunity"

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm just in a weird spot where (assuming Fox is back), I want them to be bad enough next year that Fox is let go, but good enough that they're fun to watch and we know Pace is the right guy for GM and we dont need another wholesale operations turnover.

 

But then I just go back to wishing they do as good as possible despite John Fox and telling myself he is old and can't stick around that long anyways.

[David]

I'm just in a weird spot where (assuming Fox is back), I want them to be bad enough next year that Fox is let go, but good enough that they're fun to watch and we know Pace is the right guy for GM and we dont need another wholesale operations turnover.

 

But then I just go back to wishing they do as good as possible despite John Fox and telling myself he is old and can't stick around that long anyways.

 

The second part is where you should be and where I'm at.

 

He's not so awful that he'll make us suck (i.e. Trestman), so whatever. He just makes stupidly conservative calls, a handful of inexplicable clock and challenge management calls per season, and is annoying in the way he treats the media/dispenses information. Going into 2017, I'll gladly take a good season with him over a bad one to get him canned.

[Guest]

but I don't think anyone would disagree that Chicago's front 7 are a strength, along with their offensive skill players, especially with the emergence of Meredith.

 

I don't think a team in the league fears going up against the Bears front 7 or their skill players.

 

I'd disagree. They repsect them enough to most certainly gameplan for them, espeially with a healthy Goldman and Trevathan, Jeffery and Meredith. If they aren't afraid of getting gashed by Howard, then they're stupid as horsefeathers.

[jersey cubs fan]

but I don't think anyone would disagree that Chicago's front 7 are a strength, along with their offensive skill players, especially with the emergence of Meredith.

 

I don't think a team in the league fears going up against the Bears front 7 or their skill players.

 

I'd disagree. They repsect them enough to most certainly gameplan for them, espeially with a healthy Goldman and Trevathan, Jeffery and Meredith. If they aren't afraid of getting gashed by Howard, then they're stupid as horsefeathers.

 

I mean, it's the NFL. Teams gameplan for every team they play. That has nothing to do with being afraid of this lot.

[Guest]

 

I don't think a team in the league fears going up against the Bears front 7 or their skill players.

 

I'd disagree. They repsect them enough to most certainly gameplan for them, espeially with a healthy Goldman and Trevathan, Jeffery and Meredith. If they aren't afraid of getting gashed by Howard, then they're stupid as horsefeathers.

 

I mean, it's the NFL. Teams gameplan for every team they play. That has nothing to do with being afraid of this lot.

 

Oh, ok, you wanted to make horsefeathers up. Cool.