US Open is on Fox

[Sammy Sofa]

Hottest of takes right there.

[jersey cubs fan]

They get paid so much to play a kids game, there is no justification for crying.

[Derwood]

They get paid so much to play a kids game, there is no justification for crying.

 

I didn't say that

[Derwood]

Hottest of takes right there.

 

It's a hot take to say that the players moaned about this course?

[Sammy Sofa]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

[Derwood]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

 

It was far more interesting to watch than an elegantly manicured course where the winner goes -20

[Splendid Splinter]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

 

It was far more interesting to watch than an elegantly manicured course where the winner goes -20

 

Are you a golfer? Like more than just a casual golfer? Because everyone I know who play quite a bit thought this open was horrible/wasn't fun to watch at all and the people who thought it was great/interesting/fun to watch were the guys who shoot like 50+ on 9 or don't play golf. It's not fun watching these pros shooting 74+ on a par 70.

 

I honestly thought the course was a joke. I'm glad some of the players call it out. Heck you had people getting hurt on the course from just falling. I know they wanted to make it challenging for the pros every year for the US Open and want to outdo the year before, but this course was just nuts. I would much rather see them shoot -20 on those manicured courses because you know why? Those courses are still really tough, even for single digit handicap golfer.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

 

It was far more interesting to watch than an elegantly manicured course where the winner goes -20

 

Yeah, actually it is watching the best players in the world playing on a course that doesn't look like and play like it was salvaged from an industrial accident. You could not be more of a meatball about this; a fucked up course doesn't somehow level the playing field. You're talking like the courses that don't look and play like garbage somehow aren't tough or challenging. And the bold part is stupid even for hyperbole.

[Derwood]

I'm not promoting that this type of course become the new normal. But for one event on the tour, it was an interesting diversion

[Sammy Sofa]

Oh, well, they totally should have been cool with it then.

[Derwood]

Oh, well, they totally should have been cool with it then.

 

Do they bitch this much about the British Open every year?

[Sammy Sofa]

No. Rory is the last one I can think of, and he was complaining about the weather.

[CubInOK]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

Part of the fun of the US Open is that the course, the course-keepers, and everyone involved are trying to make the course ridiculously tough on the players.

 

What I actually didn't like about this US Open is that it was on a links course. Leave that to the British Open. I'm meatballing right now, but I don't like the thought of pros bringing driving irons to a US Open. Keep the US Open to park-style courses.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

Part of the fun of the US Open is that the course, the course-keepers, and everyone involved are trying to make the course ridiculously tough on the players.

 

Nobody wants them to have an easy courses; this was just garbage basically a few steps from having putt-putt obstacles out there.

[seanimal]

i don't think that's meatballing, it's a legit complaint. 3/4 majors this year are at links courses

[Splendid Splinter]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

Part of the fun of the US Open is that the course, the course-keepers, and everyone involved are trying to make the course ridiculously tough on the players.

 

Nobody wants them to have an easy courses; this was just garbage basically a few steps from having putt-putt obstacles out there.

 

This. The US Open courses the past few years were already ridiculously tough. There was no need to go to a gimmicky course (links style but on steroids).

[seanimal]

i mean, a lot of professional golfers at the top level are privileged divas who will literally complain about anything, but i wouldn't wish that course on my worst enemy. i'd honestly be surprised if the us open returned there

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not promoting that this type of course become the new normal. But for one event on the tour, it was an interesting diversion

It wasn't one event on the tour. It was the U.S. Open

[NonProfitCow]

-5 was the fourth lowest score to win the Open over the last 15 years. 6 times even par or worse won it. People are bitching just to bitch.

[mul21]

Yup. It was an embarrassingly bad course for the US Open; why shouldn't they call it out?

 

It was far more interesting to watch than an elegantly manicured course where the winner goes -20

 

There's a huge difference between the winner shooting 5 under at this course where the best players in the world were struggling to make 5 foot putts and past courses where the winner shot 5 under and had to navigate narrow fairways, long par 5s, and thick rough. Guys making 10, 15, 20 foot putts to save par is way more fun than watching a guy get screwed out of a playoff because the greens are such pieces of [expletive]. I'm a decent golfer and on the courses I play, I'll knock in that 5 footer he had maybe 60-70% of the time and the pros are closer to 90%+. When Johnny Miller is calling 5 footers a 50/50 proposition, there's a problem with the course.

[jersey cubs fan]

-5 was the fourth lowest score to win the Open over the last 15 years. 6 times even par or worse won it. People are bitching just to bitch.

it's not about score to par but quality of play. That was a crappy course that went along with an unwatchable broadcast.

[shnsajax]

-5 was the fourth lowest score to win the Open over the last 15 years. 6 times even par or worse won it. People are bitching just to bitch.

it's not about score to par but quality of play. That was a crappy course that went along with an unwatchable broadcast.

 

And the broadcast was worse than the course.

[Guest]

I liked the different style of play that was needed to play this course, but the broadcast was horrible and the screen was very unwatchable. I couldn't separate the edge of the green from the fairway in many instances and the burnt out areas of the fairways gave an unprofessional look and feel to the course.

 

But, I still watched a significant portion of the tournament anyway.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's a bit generous to say it was simply a "different style of play" when half the time they simply have no idea what the ball is going to do in the short game because of the state of the course.

[Guest]

It's a bit generous to say it was simply a "different style of play" when half the time they simply have no idea what the ball is going to do in the short game because of the state of the course.

 

No, it was typical links style golf, which is a different style of play to what they are used to playing in the US. Normally they are playing target golf and the target is the flag. In links style golf where the ball doesn't just land and stick, they are playing target golf with a location that they believe will allow the ball to roll to the flag. This tournament was very similar in relation to courses they play in The Open. I generally have trouble deciphering where the fairways stop and the greens start on those courses, also. Ginormous greens. Part of the problem with fixing ball marks on greens that are as big as a football field is finding your ball mark, especially when the greens have so many different colors of grass. If you hit a blind shot, then you really have no idea if you even left a ball mark on the green. That ball shown jumping up in the air clearly hit someone's ball mark. That's not really a reflection of the course management as much as it's a reflection of someone not knowing they had a ball mark to repair or not finding it.

 

That also doesn't mean I'm comparing Chambers Bay to any of the courses played in The Open, which takes me back to my comment. I liked it for the different style of play. I didn't like it because of the broadcast and the horrible picture on my tv screen.

 

What would be great to me is if they just put that event at Pebble Beach every year. That's the kind of course that looks great on my tv, has all of the views when they aren't showing a golf shot, and has plenty of new challenges each day.