Arismendy Alcantara

[NOLA]

Just trade him for a Leal type and be done with it.

[Guest]

Barney already lost his job to Bonifacio/Olt once this year and it took Bonifacio's injury and Olt literally striking out 50% of the time for him to get it back, so I can't think he would be overly surprised that the prospect who came up and immediately started raking took his spot.

 

Or better yet, just put Alcantara in CF every day. Odd man out is some combo of Sweeney/Lake/Schierholtz, none of whom could reasonably have delusions about their playing time given their atrocious output and/or lack of regular PAs.

[Guest]

i mean i'm ok with the part where he said that the FO should take care of that for him. i get that the manager is supposed to at least give the impression that he's kinda on their side...sort of the good cop to their bad cop sometimes. so just go ahead and DFA barney guys please

[NOLA]

Barney already lost his job to Bonifacio/Olt once this year and it took Bonifacio's injury and Olt literally striking out 50% of the time for him to get it back, so I can't think he would be overly surprised that the prospect who came up and immediately started raking took his spot.

 

Or better yet, just put Alcantara in CF every day. Odd man out is some combo of Sweeney/Lake/Schierholtz, none of whom could reasonably have delusions about their playing time given their atrocious output and/or lack of regular PAs.

If an option is Sweeney in CF, Mendy at 2B and Valbuena at 3B I choose that.

[Clem Fandango]

Lake just need to be sent back down to the minors. If he's going to provide any sort of value, it's not gonna happen until he fixes his awful approach at the plate, and I'd rather that be done at a place that doesn't take AB's away from someone who actually needs the AB's at the MLB level (Mendy, obviously). He could probably benefit from Manny's tutelage, anyways.

[treebird]

there are a lot of players on our team who are terrible. i think our plan should probably be to make of them go away instead of one of our good players.

[jumbo]

Len did say he thought the FO would clear a spot for AA by dealing Barney or Bonifacio. Said he would keep Barney over Bonifacio. Made the Wally Pipp comment in response to B&B claiming that having a baby leads to losing your job, which is just stupid pandering, obviously.

Ultimately he thought that the team would make room for AA in the end, but also acted like Barney has been an offensive asset because of a hot streak before paternity leave.

[d_money]

Weird question that is probably not related....Who is the MLB player rep on the Cubs? If it's Barney or one of the other vets, does plating time come into play?

[Guest]

Weird question that is probably not related....Who is the MLB player rep on the Cubs? If it's Barney or one of the other vets, does plating time come into play?

 

Google says it's Villanueva.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't think he needs to replace Barney, not full time at least. Let him get 4-5 of his starts in CF since that's where he has less experience and will likely end up long term. Let Barney provide you some solid D and Bonafacio can be dealt or honestly DFA'd.

 

 

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[Gilby]

Schierholtz really just needs to be DFA'd. He has even less trade value than Barney.

[biittner77]

Barney already lost his job to Bonifacio/Olt once this year and it took Bonifacio's injury and Olt literally striking out 50% of the time for him to get it back, so I can't think he would be overly surprised that the prospect who came up and immediately started raking took his spot.

 

Or better yet, just put Alcantara in CF every day. Odd man out is some combo of Sweeney/Lake/Schierholtz, none of whom could reasonably have delusions about their playing time given their atrocious output and/or lack of regular PAs.

 

Doesn't he provide more value at 2nd though? Obviously, he could get pushed to CF later by Baez or Russell but that might not happen for a couple seasons. OF seems like a one way trip for him unless his ceiling is a supersub type. If that's what the future holds, adjusting to CF shouldn't be that difficult.

[Sammy Sofa]

Barney already lost his job to Bonifacio/Olt once this year and it took Bonifacio's injury and Olt literally striking out 50% of the time for him to get it back, so I can't think he would be overly surprised that the prospect who came up and immediately started raking took his spot.

 

Or better yet, just put Alcantara in CF every day. Odd man out is some combo of Sweeney/Lake/Schierholtz, none of whom could reasonably have delusions about their playing time given their atrocious output and/or lack of regular PAs.

 

Doesn't he provide more value at 2nd though? Obviously, he could get pushed to CF later by Baez or Russell but that might not happen for a couple seasons. OF seems like a one way trip for him unless his ceiling is a supersub type. If that's what the future holds, adjusting to CF shouldn't be that difficult.

 

Why not just play him in CF now? One of the advantages of already having a season that's written off.

[biittner77]

Barney already lost his job to Bonifacio/Olt once this year and it took Bonifacio's injury and Olt literally striking out 50% of the time for him to get it back, so I can't think he would be overly surprised that the prospect who came up and immediately started raking took his spot.

 

Or better yet, just put Alcantara in CF every day. Odd man out is some combo of Sweeney/Lake/Schierholtz, none of whom could reasonably have delusions about their playing time given their atrocious output and/or lack of regular PAs.

 

Doesn't he provide more value at 2nd though? Obviously, he could get pushed to CF later by Baez or Russell but that might not happen for a couple seasons. OF seems like a one way trip for him unless his ceiling is a supersub type. If that's what the future holds, adjusting to CF shouldn't be that difficult.

 

Why not just play him in CF now? One of the advantages of already having a season that's written off.

 

Second base is just as much a position of need as CF and probably more so. Give Alcantara second base until someone better comes along. In a perfect world Baez and Russell both pan out and push Alcantara and Bryant to the OF. At which point Alcantara would be an attractive trade piece or a placeholder for Almora. That's not likely to happen next season though. It also gives the Cubs a chance to see who between Baez and Russell will be ready first and where they need to move from SS.

[Sammy Sofa]

I would just prefer to get him adjusted ASAP; he can always go back to 2B here or somewhere else if needed. With a bunch of prospects everyone is likely going to need time to make adjustments and go through growing pains, so I'd rather get this one out of the way.

[Him]

Loooong time reader, first time poster. Going to be at the game today so Mendy had better be in the line-up!

 

I'm surprised no one seems to be discussing the possibility that we're showcasing Alcantara for an off-season trade. He'll potentially be a top prospect with some demonstrated ability to hit in the majors, plus swiss army knife positional options. Practically every talent evaluator out there seems to be raving about him right now. Within our system, he's also unlikely to see time at short, where his value is highest. IF he can hit for the next few months, it'd be a classic sell high.

 

Purely as an example, given the value the Rays have gotten out of Zobrist and the possibility that he's traded this summer, I think they could be interested. Mendy wouldn't headline a Price trade, but he could be a very strong second piece that allows us to send Soler as the primary instead of Bryant, Baez or Russell.

 

Would this board riot if he hits well for the next 2+ months and then gets shipped out?

[Clem Fandango]

I think the possibility of Alcantara moving in a deal is certainly there, but I think he only gets moved with one of our better prospects for a huge name. Otherwise, there's really no CF option on the horizon as Almora will probably take a couple more years to get seasoning and McKinney will as well and by all accounts it seems he's more destined for a corner OF spot. Anything is posible, but for right now and for 2015, we kind of need Alcantara since it's obvious they're grooming Javy for 2B.

 

We have no good CF'er really, and if they intend on competing in 2015, Alcantara should either be a huge part of those plans, or a part of bigger plans to acquire someone else, i.e. Stanton or a top end pitcher, though I don't think they'll trade for a pitcher, personally.

 

To answer your question, I would be miffed if they traded Alcantara. I would only not be upset if we got someone like Stanton back in return, though. To me, that's the only option. Alcantara could be our sneaky under-the-radar superstar.

Edited July 18, 2014 by The Logan

[RammyFanny]

I don't think you're going to get many people agreeing with any decent package for Price, since:

 

A) He's a pitcher who has had random velocity drops in the past, and as we've seen this year, gambling on a pitchers health is extremely risky.

 

B) He's going to cost a bajillion dollars to extend and he will probably be on the other side of his prime soon enough.

 

C) Soler (even with his contract) and Alcantara are going to be so cheap.

 

D) He's still a pitcher.

 

I think we can entertain the discussion if you're talking about consolidating some high ceiling prospects into Stanton or another hitter to mitigate the risk of one of them flaming out, but Price doesn't do it for me. I think the chance he flames out is just as high as Soler or Alcantara flaming out, and that's before we get into the fact that we'll be paying him 25 million a year or whatever he gets.

 

We're going to have a boatload of money to spend soon, and if we want to try handing out a big deal for a pitcher, we can do that in free agency. No need to give up two cost controlled pieces just for the right to give a pitcher a megadeal.

[Guest]

i seriously would rather roll with 5 kevin tapanis or something than trade any real assets for pitching prospects

[Banedon]

i seriously would rather roll with 5 kevin tapanis or something than trade any real assets for pitching prospects

 

Kevin Tapani is like 50 years old. 5 of him would not make a very good rotation.

[Guest]

i seriously would rather roll with 5 kevin tapanis or something than trade any real assets for pitching prospects

 

Kevin Tapani is like 50 years old. 5 of him would not make a very good rotation.

 

not when you divide him into 5

[SouthSideRyan]

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[Banedon]

i seriously would rather roll with 5 kevin tapanis or something than trade any real assets for pitching prospects

 

Kevin Tapani is like 50 years old. 5 of him would not make a very good rotation.

 

not when you divide him into 5

 

Gruesome.

[SouthSideRyan]

i seriously would rather roll with 5 kevin tapanis or something than trade any real assets for pitching prospects

 

Kevin Tapani is like 50 years old. 5 of him would not make a very good rotation.

 

not when you divide him into 5

 

Gruesome.

 

You can tell he was alive up until the point he was divided in 5.

[Guest]

LOL