Week 9 - MNF: Bears (4-3) @ Green Bay (5-2) - 7:40 PM, ESPN

[Wilson A2000]

Greinke broke his non-throwing shoulder collarbone. Had surgery. Supposed to be out 8 weeks, but came back after 4.

[Smack]

Assuming Rodgers IS out on Sunday will the Packers be underdogs at home against Nick Foles and the Eagles? I think so.

It was -8 this morning, IF he is out I bet it falls somewhere to a pick em to Pack -3. Doubt it reopens with them as home dogs.

 

 

He's the single most important player in football. Maybe in sports.

[Guest]

SIAP but Zaidman said broken collarbone for Rodgers.

 

Timetable that other QB's have come back from these?

 

Gotta be at least a month right? Assuming it IS broken.

I'm not a doctor but I assume it's good that it's not that throwing shoulder.

 

you ain't playing with a broken collarbone, no matter which side its on

[Smack]

Nobody confirming Zaidman so my cynical ass is assuming he'll be back Sunday.

[Guest]

Greinke broke his non-throwing shoulder collarbone. Had surgery. Supposed to be out 8 weeks, but came back after 4.

 

he doesn't play football

[Splendid Splinter]

It's a good thing it's not the throwing shoulder, but the question will be "Can he take a hit/sack when he comes back and not re-injure it or make it worse?" It's a tough injury to come back from.

 

This is assuming it's a broken or fractured collarbone.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Splendid Splinter

[SpongeWorthy]

Oh god I hope the Favre chatter starts

[Smack]

Oh god I hope the Favre chatter starts

 

It's all over Facebook up here. Not sure if they're drunk or joking.

[Wilson A2000]

Greinke broke his non-throwing shoulder collarbone. Had surgery. Supposed to be out 8 weeks, but came back after 4.

 

he doesn't play football

 

You got something more similar to a person throwing an object for a living and had a broken collarbone on his non-throwing side?

[Guest]

Greinke broke his non-throwing shoulder collarbone. Had surgery. Supposed to be out 8 weeks, but came back after 4.

 

he doesn't play football

 

You got something more similar to a person throwing an object for a living and had a broken collarbone on his non-throwing side?

 

only if greike was planning on having people charge the mound on him in every single game

[Smack]

I mean they did an x ray. If it wasn't a broken collarbone wouldn't they just deny it? In McCarthys's press conference he was specifically asked if it was a broken collarbone.

[Splendid Splinter]

The only QBs I can think of with BROKEN collarbones are Jason Campbell (2011), Tony Romo (2010), and Anthony Boone (from Duke this year). Pretty sure both Campbell and Romo missed the rest of their season and Boone is most likely although I think all 3 of them are on their throwing shoulder.

[Wilson A2000]

I mean they did an x ray. If it wasn't a broken collarbone wouldn't they just deny it? In McCarthys's press conference he was specifically asked if it was a broken collarbone.

 

I guess you don't want to say anything until you maybe get a second opinion. Doesn't injury news almost always get fully communicated the day after?

[JonJayCutler]

I won't let myself root for a serious Rodgers injury. Never works out well.

 

I'm sure thousands of Packers fans rejoiced when Cutler went down. Oops.

[Wilson A2000]

Average recovery time 9 weeks according to this link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Romo-suffers-broken-collarbone-in-Monday-night-g?urn=nfl-279819

[Splendid Splinter]

I'm pretty sure it's not a broken collar bone. If Rodgers did, we would've seen him with ice on his collar bone and his left arm in a sling because you want to relieve the pain by not moving that arm.

[SpongeWorthy]

oy, looking at the highlights. Conte is terrible. Can't even lay a finger on straight downhill runners like Starks and Lacy.

[Guest]

oy, looking at the highlights. Conte is terrible. Can't even lay a finger on straight downhill runners like Starks and Lacy.

 

Yeah, he should have benched for Steltz.

[Guest]

oy, looking at the highlights. Conte is terrible. Can't even lay a finger on straight downhill runners like Starks and Lacy.

 

Archuleta 2.0

[Smack]

I'm sure he's fine.

[Wilson A2000]

Greinke broke his non-throwing shoulder collarbone. Had surgery. Supposed to be out 8 weeks, but came back after 4.

 

he doesn't play football

 

You got something more similar to a person throwing an object for a living and had a broken collarbone on his non-throwing side?

 

only if greike was planning on having people charge the mound on him in every single game

 

Greinke was told 8 weeks. Football players told 9 weeks. Not a huge difference.

[gscool89]

Yeah I hope Rodgers is okay but the NFL system puts way too much emphasis on winning the division. The only way you can get HFA in the first round is by winning the division and I don't want to go to Seattle or San Francisco.

[Guest]

The Packers are going to run more tests tomorrow on Rodgers so the broken collarbone isn't confirmed at all.

[WrigleyField 22]

I mean if they knew for sure it was broken or even might be he comes out in a sling right?

[Splendid_Splinter]

So Cutler and Briggs are out vs. Rodgers and Mathews (looking at this simply, there are obviously more out for both sides). 2 questions:

 

1) Are the Bears without Cutler and Briggs better than the Packers without Rodgers and Mathews?

Without both Rodgers and Matthews it is easy to say the Bears are the better overall team. Add those two injuries to prior injuries to Brian Bulaga, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley, Nick Perry, the Packers are at a point where injuries will, more likely than not, submarine the rest of their season.

2) Does this show say anything about how much Rodgers is better than Cutler, or does this show how much better McCown is than Wallace? Or both?

For me it is a bit of both. I don't mean this as a slight toward Jay Cutler in any way, but the talent divide between Rodgers and Wallace is greater than the divide between Cutler and McCown.

 

As a resident Packers fan good game tonight and good luck with the rest of the season. Given the dim hope I have for the Packers I would rather see the Bears win the division than the Lions.