08/23 CUBS (Jackson) @ San Diego (Volquez) 9:10 CDT, CSN

[UMFan83]

Haha we lost? Great stuff

[InconspicuousZ28]

Haha we lost? Great stuff

 

No lead is safe with this team, it appears. Cubs score all their runs before even having an out recorded against them and can't make it stick.

[UMFan83]

If Cubs fans actually cared anymore, Edwin Jackson would have LaTroy Hawkins like hate in this city right now.

[Careless]

edwin jackson xFIP going into this game:

 

2010: 3.71

2011: 3.73

2012: 3.79

2013: 3.79

 

hopefully he's just getting his bad luck out of his system in a lost year and will be back to solid mid-rotation starter next season.

Times in that period his xFIP has been as better than his actual ERA: 4. One of these years now, he'll get that bad luck out of his system

 

(the two years before that were the only two in his career, aside from his 22 inning first season, where his ERA was better than xFIP. Same with FIP

[Andy]

edwin jackson xFIP going into this game:

 

2010: 3.71

2011: 3.73

2012: 3.79

2013: 3.79

 

hopefully he's just getting his bad luck out of his system in a lost year and will be back to solid mid-rotation starter next season.

Times in that period his xFIP has been as better than his actual ERA: 4. One of these years now, he'll get that bad luck out of his system

 

(the two years before that were the only two in his career, aside from his 22 inning first season, where his ERA was better than xFIP. Same with FIP

Yeah, I check on the FIP and stuff like any 'smart' baseball fan is supposed to do, but when you consistently underperform your FIP, you're not as good as FIP says you are anymore.

[Guest]

If Jackson's ERA v. xFIP were the same as it was for the 3 years prior, his ERA would be 4.17 instead of the 5.00 it is today. The point of showing his xFIP is not to say "don't worry, his ERA will probably be 3.80 next year"(although that's been the case in 2 of the previous 4 years), its to point out that his peripherals have stayed consistent while his ERA has jumped, meaning he's more likely to bounce back next year to that previous relationship.

[Careless]

If Jackson's ERA v. xFIP were the same as it was for the 3 years prior, his ERA would be 4.17 instead of the 5.00 it is today. The point of showing his xFIP is not to say "don't worry, his ERA will probably be 3.80 next year"(although that's been the case in 2 of the previous 4 years), its to point out that his peripherals have stayed consistent while his ERA has jumped, meaning he's more likely to bounce back next year to that previous relationship.

 

Yeah, we get what xFIP is supposed to show. The fact that a player can under perform it for a thousand innings suggests that it has major problems.

[Guest]

Maybe if the gap was as disparate for the whole 1000 IP as it is this year, but xFIP(or any statistic) is not trying to give you accuracy to the hundredths decimal place as a predictive measure.