Game 1 - Indianapolis Colts @ BEARS - 12:00 PM

[Old Style]

Fun game. Offense would be damn near unstoppable with a great line in front of them.

[Brian]

after the first 2 offensive series I was sparking my lighter underneath my spoon, but it got fun real quick.

[Magnetic Curses]

The announcers want to say that Luck and Cutler have played to a draw, they just can't quite blurt it out, so I can't call them idiots yet.

I was going to say they'd be about right until that pass just now. wow.

sure, if context doesn't matter whatsoever.

With a couple of very small changes in luck at that point, it's Cutler with 3 interceptions and Luck with one, and Luck looking a lot better.

 

edit: at that point you had Jennings with an amazing pick, Jennings with a tip for a pick to... Conte?, and a tipped fumble/pick to Peppers that was so close to hitting the ground they originally ruled it an incomplete pass. Cutler had at least one and I think two dropped interceptions at that point and one or two tipped balls he was lucky didn't go to Colts.

 

ridiculous. if aaron rodgers threw passes to the other team he wouldn't be aaron rodgers.

 

cutler throws a lot of passes into tight windows and double coverage but he looked a lot better than luck out there today. he also had a touchdown pass reversed, and if ragnarok wasn't unleashed on that throw to jeffery, it won't ever be.

[Guest]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

[Banedon]

if ragnarok wasn't unleashed on that throw to jeffery, it won't ever be.

 

You do enjoy that phrase.

[Magnetic Curses]

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

[Banedon]

lol...Jay asking fans to keep quieter when offense has the ball in the redzone. Was said pretty light hearted, but serious.

[Guest]

lol...Jay asking fans to keep quieter when offense has the ball in the redzone. Was said pretty light hearted, but serious.

 

They seriously have to make an effort to get that message out. It's embarrassing.

[Careless]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh?

 

 

The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses.

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

[UMFan83]

I don't think he was talking about luck the QB....

[Magnetic Curses]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh?

 

 

The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses.

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

 

jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions.

 

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

[Careless]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh?

 

 

The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses.

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

 

jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions.

 

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

One might almost think you weren't responding to a comment made about the performances well before the game ended. But you were.

 

And if you're wondering, Cutler's passer rating went from about 85 to 99 after that point of the game. Luck's went from about 84 to 53

 

And Luck had already been unlucky with at least one INT at that point and Cutler had already had at least one INT dropped after the CB hit the ground.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Careless

[Wilson A2000]

lol...Jay asking fans to keep quieter when offense has the ball in the redzone. Was said pretty light hearted, but serious.

 

They seriously have to make an effort to get that message out. It's embarrassing.

 

There are people on the field who hold up big orange road signs that say "Quiet Bears working" or something to the effect when the Bears get in the red zone.

[Magnetic Curses]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh?

 

 

The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses.

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

 

jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions.

 

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

One might almost think you weren't responding to a comment made about the performances well before the game ended. But you were.

 

And if you're wondering, Cutler's passer rating went from about 85 to 99 after that point of the game. Luck's went from about 84 to 53

 

so your argument is that for a portion of the game luck was comparable to cutler? ok, i agree, luck's first 8 passes were comparable to cutler's first 8.

[Magnetic Curses]

and your argument is dumb as dog [expletive]

[Careless]

Also, the Bears get takeaways. After 8 years, we can stop attributing turnovers by our defense to luck.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh?

 

 

The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses.

cutler also averaged 9.5 per attempt compared to luck's 6.9

Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

 

jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions.

 

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

One might almost think you weren't responding to a comment made about the performances well before the game ended. But you were.

 

And if you're wondering, Cutler's passer rating went from about 85 to 99 after that point of the game. Luck's went from about 84 to 53

 

so your argument is that for a portion of the game luck was comparable to cutler? ok, i agree, luck's first 8 passes were comparable to cutler's first 8.

My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

Edited September 10, 2012 by Careless

[Wilson A2000]

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

 

You could have said those very same things about Peyton Manning, Brees, and maybe even Brady the last 10 years. Some people are just smarter than the rest and have a better football IQ. I think Luck is going to have a higher football IQ compared to Jay before long. Maybe Jay just needed a great receiver to make his football IQ look better than it is. We'll see.

[Wilson A2000]

Gumbel said that Shannahan said that Cutler has a better arm that Elway did. Really?

[Magnetic Curses]

My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

 

haha nice edit spaz.

 

anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison.

[Magnetic Curses]

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

 

You could have said those very same things about Peyton Manning, Brees, and maybe even Brady the last 10 years. Some people are just smarter than the rest and have a better football IQ. I think Luck is going to have a higher football IQ compared to Jay before long. Maybe Jay just needed a great receiver to make his football IQ look better than it is. We'll see.

 

re: arguments being dumb as dog [expletive]

[Careless]

My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

 

haha nice edit spaz.

 

anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison.

The comparison was made at 25 and 27 passes. They had almost the same attempts, yards, completions, and rating. Cutler had the one terrible, stupid, his fault interception, and Luck had some bad luck or incredibly skilled interception against him.

 

When whoever said it, it was a reasonable comment. Luck did really well for his first game, especially when the original comment was made

 

and yes, I hadn't previously read your intent to drag this into poop comments.

[Magnetic Curses]

My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

 

haha nice edit spaz.

 

anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison.

The comparison was made at 25 and 27 passes. They had almost the same attempts, yards, completions, and rating. Cutler had the one terrible, stupid, his fault interception, and Luck had some bad luck or incredibly skilled interception against him.

 

When whoever said it, it was a reasonable comment. Luck did really well for his first game.

 

and yes, I hadn't previously read your intent to drag this into poop comments.

 

how did those first 8 passes work, though?

 

luck played inefficiently and got worse as the game went on. cutler got better.

[Magnetic Curses]

and your argument is worthy of poop comments

[Careless]

My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

 

haha nice edit spaz.

 

anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison.

The comparison was made at 25 and 27 passes. They had almost the same attempts, yards, completions, and rating. Cutler had the one terrible, stupid, his fault interception, and Luck had some bad luck or incredibly skilled interception against him.

 

When whoever said it, it was a reasonable comment. Luck did really well for his first game.

 

and yes, I hadn't previously read your intent to drag this into poop comments.

 

how did those first 8 passes work, though?

 

luck played inefficiently and got worse as the game went on. cutler got better.

It's possible. It's also irrelevant. You've made a bunch of comments in response to me, and they've either been simply wrong or not even wrong. Care to make one on point and not wrong?

[Wilson A2000]

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

 

You could have said those very same things about Peyton Manning, Brees, and maybe even Brady the last 10 years. Some people are just smarter than the rest and have a better football IQ. I think Luck is going to have a higher football IQ compared to Jay before long. Maybe Jay just needed a great receiver to make his football IQ look better than it is. We'll see.

 

re: arguments being dumb as dog [expletive]

 

How good is Manning's athleticism? He has average arm strength. A veritable statue. Notice you didn't say anything about accuracy. That is what those three guys have and that is one of Jay's weaknesses. Michael Vick has a cannon, the best escapability in NFL history, but he admitted he never studied crap in the film room in Atlanta. And that is why he won't win anything. That and the fact that he is injury prone.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Wilson A2000