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Now granted, 2005 and 2006 they ranked 2nd both seasons, but I would contend that staying in the top 10 defenses for 6 of the last 7 years is hardly "missing multiple beats". Especially when you consider the injury woes of 2009.

 

That would be a really strange argument to try and make. They were elite and they took a significant step back from elite. They missed beats. Why would anybody try to pretend otherwise?

 

Maybe I'm misinterpretting your argument, but it sounded to me like you were arguing that they were elite five or six year ago, then went to average. I disagree if that is what you're arguing and I think the weighted defensive efficiency shows that. This may be a semantics argument, but I felt the tone of your post was basically indicating that they were an average defensive team. In fact, you states that.

 

They went from an elite defense to just about average in a hurry.

 

You also said they were not close to elite, and I disagree with that too.

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Looks like Bryant McKinnie may be cut by the Ravens today.

 

Conditioning is a big reason for that though.

 

Yes but would he still be worse than Webb?

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@JasonLaCanfora

 

Ravens have not released LT Bryant Mckinnie yet, but told him they intend to do so after unable to agree on a reduced salary...

 

@JasonLaCanfora

 

They could have a change of heart before today's waiver deadline or work out a late deal, but that's highly unlikely now. Oher goes to LT.

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Found someone to pick the Bears to win the Super Bowl. As a bonus, he picked Cutler as MVP....

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-expert-predictions-2012-season

Saw that too. The same guy had Cutler as MVP and Offensive POY, has any player ever won both? Don't they usually give those out to different guys? Didn't Rodgers get MVP last year and Brady or Brees OPOY?

 

i don't understand how anyone could have jay cutler beating out aaron rodgers for either award unless jay goes neo this year.

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What're the odds the Bears actually try for him?

 

I just don't see how they could ignore it. Tice has been a big proponent of Webb, but even he admitted that neither Webb or Williams really stepped up.

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Sean Jensen mentioning the Bears could make a little room for McKinnie by cutting Williams.

 

And he's had Tice as a coach in Minny.

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Mulley and Hanley asked Biggs this morning about some report that the Bears had around $6mil in space, and Brad says he doesn't believe it's quite that much.
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Mulley and Hanley asked Biggs this morning about some report that the Bears had around $6mil in space, and Brad says he doesn't believe it's quite that much.

 

but enough to sign McKinney while they look for a trading partner for Williams..?

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Mulley and Hanley asked Biggs this morning about some report that the Bears had around $6mil in space, and Brad says he doesn't believe it's quite that much.

 

but enough to sign McKinney while they look for a trading partner for Williams..?

 

I think so, but it'd be tight if you have any injuries where you have to sign any new players. But I'm no cap expert.

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Now granted, 2005 and 2006 they ranked 2nd both seasons, but I would contend that staying in the top 10 defenses for 6 of the last 7 years is hardly "missing multiple beats". Especially when you consider the injury woes of 2009.

 

That would be a really strange argument to try and make. They were elite and they took a significant step back from elite. They missed beats. Why would anybody try to pretend otherwise?

 

Maybe I'm misinterpretting your argument, but it sounded to me like you were arguing that they were elite five or six year ago, then went to average. I disagree if that is what you're arguing and I think the weighted defensive efficiency shows that. This may be a semantics argument, but I felt the tone of your post was basically indicating that they were an average defensive team. In fact, you states that.

 

They went from an elite defense to just about average in a hurry.

 

You also said they were not close to elite, and I disagree with that too.

 

Yes, they went from elite to average in a hurry. They "missed beats" as others suggested they never did. They got better since, but they haven't gotten as good as they were when they were the best defense in football and actually a threat to score, let alone prevent the opposition from scoring.

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