Week 9

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East continues the dominance with a near sweep in Week 8. The e/w matchups continue this week.

 

For the Dealers, we have Kemp and Reynolds due to come off the DL tomorrow or Wednesday, so will have a couple lineup swaps to make on those days.

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Kemp played 1 game and he's back to the DL.

 

I picked up Daniel Nava to play OF.

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So is there a rule that every trade has to include Tim?

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swapped napoli for avila (just acquired... plus avila is dinged up). also added ogando to my lineup (again, just acquired)

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So is there a rule that every trade has to include Tim?

I'm done now unless someone wants Bedard, Soriano, Street or Robertson.

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Well if cespedes and Morse came off the DL today as expected, then my team is illegal. I don't have time to check or make moves today. Since I can't work out a trade (with the couple of people who've actually responded to offers), you can just take today's points away. It doesn't matter how many, I'm getting slaughtered and truffle only has like 3 uninjured players.

 

I'm not sure how you did this whole "play for next year" thing truffle. It's boring as [expletive].

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Well if cespedes and Morse came off the DL today as expected, then my team is illegal. I don't have time to check or make moves today. Since I can't work out a trade (with the couple of people who've actually responded to offers), you can just take today's points away. It doesn't matter how many, I'm getting slaughtered and truffle only has like 3 uninjured players.

 

we usually give some leeway with injured players coming off the DL, so if you have a guy who comes off the DL today and you still have him on there, we don't judge your team as illegal right away. if he's still on your DL next week, that's another issue.

 

I'm not sure how you did this whole "play for next year" thing truffle. It's boring as [expletive].

 

it helped that i had halladay, but just take the pieces you have that are worth something and get what you can for them. i didn't really have needs at the positions you offered to me, but your asking price for norris/reddick (both rentals as they've used up all their exemptions) wasn't really reasonable. just try to upgrade your prospects and then stockpile a bunch of picks - you'll have a lot of early picks for next year, which can either be used to have a good draft, or to acquire really good keepers before the draft.

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I just got an offer from raw that worked, so nm on the points issue.

 

Added Castellanos without giving up Wilson or Cespedes which is all that mattered.

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I get what you're saying truffle, but my only slam dunk quality keeper right now is Wilson so I don't want to trade him. I went into this year with 0 great keepers (not knowing Hamilton's relapses this winter would improve his play) and that's no way to build a team. Now over half my team is exempt and my prospects are significantly improved. I'd love to upgrade my prospects but it's not like I have all the crap I had a few months ago. Unless someone gives me Bundy or Bauer or something, the improvement isn't going to be huge.

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I get what you're saying truffle, but my only slam dunk quality keeper right now is Wilson so I don't want to trade him. I went into this year with 0 great keepers (not knowing Hamilton's relapses this winter would improve his play) and that's no way to build a team. Now over half my team is exempt and my prospects are significantly improved. I'd love to upgrade my prospects but it's not like I have all the crap I had a few months ago. Unless someone gives me Bundy or Bauer or something, the improvement isn't going to be huge.

 

right, but i dumped pretty much everyone i had that was worth a damn. i remember wanting tim to throw in kipnis in the halladay trade (the main pieces were shelby miller and jacob turner, plus a first round pick) - he did, and now kipnis is a top 5 second baseman. i got avila and goldschmidt for victor martinez. i think i got a 4th round and 6th round pick for markakis and ichiro. not big upgrades, but you've got some players (norris, santana, reddick) who would be upgrades for contending teams, and if you can use them to improve your draft position then go for it. i'd be targeting guys like kipnis who are just about major league ready and may not be stars (although kipnis is exceeding expectations), but at least provide average to above average production as a free keeper for the next 2-3 years.

 

i like castellanos quite a bit - nice work picking him up in that deal.

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Virtually half of my team is on my trading block. I don't want to move Wilson or Cespedes unless I'm blown away, but almost anyone else is available.

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oh, can i delete fake shelby miller from the eyes of texas' team? by this stage we've established that the fake one has been there for like 2 years while the real one was created earlier (than the fake one) and has been owned by 3 different people and traded twice.

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It doesn't matter how many, I'm getting slaughtered and truffle only has like 3 uninjured players.

 

i'd feel more confident if i were going to come anywhere close to my 7 starts allowed. right now my pitchers have made 2 and i only have 2 more scheduled to go this weekend - i had no 2-start pitchers, jaime garcia is being skipped because of an elbow issue and halladay was DL'ed. the only way i can get more than 4 starts this week is to release a player, but i really don't have dead weight on my roster.

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So is there a rule that every trade has to include Tim?

I'm done now unless someone wants Bedard, Soriano, Street or Robertson.

 

Soriano

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petition to remove dumb ass 3-player DL limit this offseason.

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petition to remove dumb ass 3-player DL limit this offseason.

Agreed!

 

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I don't see a problem with a 3-man DL. Maybe increase it to 4, but that makes it more competitive. There's already 16 teams in this league. Letting teams hoard injured players as cheap keepers is not a good idea. Someone could have a killer team if they picked up and were able to hold onto Crawford, Howard, Brett Anderson, Chris Carpenter, VMart, etc. to go along with their points keepers.

 

Like right now, Theocracy has 5 injured players. Sure that sucks a lot, but he's holding on to 2 players that are out til August. A short bench is a risk you should have to take if drafting someone who obviously isn't coming back anytime soon. Someone shouldn't get to take all the 60-day DL'ers and still have a full bench in a league this deep.

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I'm in hoarding mode right now, but this has really hurt me in seasons where I've been competing. I've ended up with five or more players I was counting on end up on the DL at one time. It forced me to either drop good players I was counting on for the playoff push at the end of the season or just leave injured players in my lineup and play short handed.

 

I understand the need to protect against hoarding somehow. But if you've got five guys that started healthy all get injuries, then you should be able to put those guys on the DL.

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But that's not a rule change that can be made mid-season. Too many people have already made roster moves (or not made moves) based on the DL rules. You can't change course mid-year.

 

I tend to think 3 spots strikes the right balance.

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Speaking of DL, Cespedes and Morse came off, Dirks went on. With the trade from Friday, I think my roster is legal again.

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Speaking of DL rules and hoarding, I released Ryan Howard because I can't afford to waste two bench spots on injured players. Luebke (TJ surgery) to DL list, and Drew Hutchison into the lineup.

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I'm in hoarding mode right now, but this has really hurt me in seasons where I've been competing. I've ended up with five or more players I was counting on end up on the DL at one time. It forced me to either drop good players I was counting on for the playoff push at the end of the season or just leave injured players in my lineup and play short handed.

 

I understand the need to protect against hoarding somehow. But if you've got five guys that started healthy all get injuries, then you should be able to put those guys on the DL.

 

I think some of that is on the owner too. Some players just get injured routinely. If you stake your team's success to young fireballing starting pitchers, then you risk having too many guys on the DL at one time. I have Troy Tulowitzki, who's an amazing player, but he goes on the DL for at least 3 weeks every single year. If I'm going to have him on my roster, I should know not to also take injury risks in my lineup.

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We will have to vote on this, but I think 3 is a good number. If you want to stash players, use reserve spots.

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I don't see a problem with a 3-man DL. Maybe increase it to 4, but that makes it more competitive. There's already 16 teams in this league. Letting teams hoard injured players as cheap keepers is not a good idea. Someone could have a killer team if they picked up and were able to hold onto Crawford, Howard, Brett Anderson, Chris Carpenter, VMart, etc. to go along with their points keepers.

 

Like right now, Theocracy has 5 injured players. Sure that sucks a lot, but he's holding on to 2 players that are out til August. A short bench is a risk you should have to take if drafting someone who obviously isn't coming back anytime soon. Someone shouldn't get to take all the 60-day DL'ers and still have a full bench in a league this deep.

 

I would agree. The 3 man DL is at times a problem, but I think we want it to be that way. A manager should be forced to make difficult choices every once in a while.

 

But that being said, I do not think this is a life or death issue.

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We could set up something resembling the 15 man and 60 day DL - wouldn't work quite like MLB but there might be a way to make this work - ie you can hoard one player and still have spots for starters that get hurt. seems like most people are ok with the current three though. I think everyone agrees any change would be made offseason - however, we should decide soon so everyone knows what the rule will be.