Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[jersey cubs fan]

I like my Super Bowls not played on the field equivalent of a chewed-up piece of beef, thank you very much.

 

A Super Bowl would undoubtedly be the thing that finally forces them to put down a real field surface.

[Sammy Sofa]

I have absolutely zero confidence in that happening.

 

Besides, isn't it a pipe dream in the first place? I know we're going to see one in NY soon, but playing a SB in Feb. weather in a place like Chicago just doesn't seem like something the NFL will gamble on.

[jersey cubs fan]

I have absolutely zero confidence in that happening.

 

Besides, isn't it a pipe dream in the first place? I know we're going to see one in NY soon, but playing a SB in Feb. weather in a place like Chicago just doesn't seem like something the NFL will gamble on.

 

I don't see what the gamble is personally. There are plenty of places where crappy weather can and has played a major role. Snow in Chicago would be better than a rain storm in Miami. The Super Bowl is, first and foremost, a television event. And snowy football games make for fantastic television. The media members who want their paid vacation at the beach will be upset, but anybody should love the opportunity to be involved with such an event.

[Banedon]

The field condition and the size of the stadium seem to be larger obstacles than the weather, to me.

[jersey cubs fan]

The field condition and the size of the stadium seem to be larger obstacles than the weather, to me.

 

Field condition is easily solved and stadium size is an artificial barrier for the NFL. They have no need to sell that many tickets, they just like to.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, it's a really shitty stadium, too.

[Sammy Sofa]

I have absolutely zero confidence in that happening.

 

Besides, isn't it a pipe dream in the first place? I know we're going to see one in NY soon, but playing a SB in Feb. weather in a place like Chicago just doesn't seem like something the NFL will gamble on.

 

I don't see what the gamble is personally. There are plenty of places where crappy weather can and has played a major role. Snow in Chicago would be better than a rain storm in Miami. The Super Bowl is, first and foremost, a television event. And snowy football games make for fantastic television. The media members who want their paid vacation at the beach will be upset, but anybody should love the opportunity to be involved with such an event.

 

Well, they wouldn't be if it's a hideous Chicago Feb., and you know it. You'd have tons of complaints from around the league to such an idea, and from outside, too. They're not going to potentially dent their cash cow, so they're going to continue to take the path of least resistance more often than not and stick to domes or warm-weather locations, the NY game aside.

[Old Style]

size of the stadium

There you go. Soldier Field is the smallest stadium in the NFL and that is why it will never host a Super Bowl.

[jersey cubs fan]

I have absolutely zero confidence in that happening.

 

Besides, isn't it a pipe dream in the first place? I know we're going to see one in NY soon, but playing a SB in Feb. weather in a place like Chicago just doesn't seem like something the NFL will gamble on.

 

I don't see what the gamble is personally. There are plenty of places where crappy weather can and has played a major role. Snow in Chicago would be better than a rain storm in Miami. The Super Bowl is, first and foremost, a television event. And snowy football games make for fantastic television. The media members who want their paid vacation at the beach will be upset, but anybody should love the opportunity to be involved with such an event.

 

Well, they wouldn't be if it's a hideous Chicago Feb., and you know it. You'd have tons of complaints from around the league to such an idea, and from outside, too. They're not going to potentially dent their cash cow, so they're going to continue to take the path of least resistance more often than not and stick to domes or warm-weather locations, the NY game aside.

 

People attending the Super Bowl is not a cash cow.

[Sammy Sofa]

I know.

 

Look at it this way: Chicago has absolutely nothing to offer to entice the NFL to bring the Super Bowl here. Nothing.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I live the idea of Chicago hosting a super bowl for the reasons that we might get field turf and I think the SB could stand to have a few really awful weather stadiums to shake it up a bit. And besides, it's the freaking SB, no team or fan is going to say "yea, no thanks, I don't want to go to Chicago in Feb". But I really doubt the NFL would ever do it

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, I mean, we're relatively splitting hairs when we're talking about money; it's the SB and it's going to make an ungodly amount regardless of where it's played. I just don't see Chicago having anything to actually make the argument that the SB should be held here. Shitty weather, terrible field, terrible tiny stadium that looks awful on TV...none of these are things that could completely derail the idea, but in the end the attitude is likely going to be "why bother" when there are so many more easily accommodating locations that are much better suited.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, I mean, we're relatively splitting hairs when we're talking about money; it's the SB and it's going to make an ungodly amount regardless of where it's played. I just don't see Chicago having anything to actually make the argument that the SB should be held here. [expletive] weather, terrible field, terrible tiny stadium that looks awful on TV...none of these are things that could completely derail the idea, but in the end the attitude is likely going to be "why bother" when there are so many more easily accommodating locations that are much better suited.

 

What's wrong with the stadium?

 

Metlife is a god awful stadium. Dolphin Stadium is no good. Being in Soldier Field is much better.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I actually love Soldier Field, but I'm an Architect and therefor severely disconnected with society when it comes to aesthetic appreciation of the built world. Phenomenological existence.

 

thats right, I just archi-babbled you bitches.

[cubbyvirus00]

Soldier Field is an awesome stadium and looks just fine on TV. Sure we don't have the largest TV in the world inside the place, but I'd say it is better then most stadiums.

 

You want a shitty stadium? Go to Qualcomm in San Diego.

[UMFan83]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

[jersey cubs fan]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

 

that's exactly what it was.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

 

yes/no. It could have been expanded, but it would have drastically changed the old portions of Soldier Field. Considering it was a Historical Landmark, they tried to compromise. I really think they did a nice job considering the restraints actually.

[Guest]

Yeah, I mean, we're relatively splitting hairs when we're talking about money; it's the SB and it's going to make an ungodly amount regardless of where it's played. I just don't see Chicago having anything to actually make the argument that the SB should be held here. [expletive] weather, terrible field, terrible tiny stadium that looks awful on TV...none of these are things that could completely derail the idea, but in the end the attitude is likely going to be "why bother" when there are so many more easily accommodating locations that are much better suited.

 

 

WUT?

 

 

It looks shitty from the outside (mainly because of the columns) but there is nothing terrible about the stadium itself nor does it look terrible on TV. You're nuts.

[Guest]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

 

that's exactly what it was.

 

The best part is how they lost the landmark status anyway.

[Guest]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

 

that's exactly what it was.

 

The best part is how they lost the landmark status anyway.

Mainly because they made it bloody hideous from the outside.

[Pushfrog98]

I actually love Soldier Field, but I'm an Architect and therefor severely disconnected with society when it comes to aesthetic appreciation of the built world. Phenomenological existence.

 

thats right, I just archi-babbled you bitches.

How do you pronounce "encyclopædia"?

[Banedon]

I never understood why the Bears rebuilt Soldier Field with such a small capacity. Maybe the McCaskeys weren't exactly thinking a Super Bowl would ever be a possibility in Chicago, or even the Olympics, but at the very least, you are looking at the 2nd largest NFL market having the smallest stadium.

 

Maybe I'm off base in my blame, was it a structural issue of being able to fit the new stadium inside the columns?

 

that's exactly what it was.

 

The best part is how they lost the landmark status anyway.

Mainly because they made it bloody hideous from the outside.

 

You're gonna give Ricketts ideas.

[Banedon]

But there is a distinct difference between the offense Weems lined up in while with the Falcons to the one he’s beginning to absorb here with the Bears.

 

"I think the biggest difference so far is, we toss the ball around a lot more here," Weems said.

 

Didn't the Falcons throw a ton? I seem to remember a lot of high pass attempt totals for Ryan.

 

Edit: Atlanta was 4th in the league in passing attempts. Chicago was 27th.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

But there is a distinct difference between the offense Weems lined up in while with the Falcons to the one he’s beginning to absorb here with the Bears.

 

"I think the biggest difference so far is, we toss the ball around a lot more here," Weems said.

 

Didn't the Falcons throw a ton? I seem to remember a lot of high pass attempt totals for Ryan.

 

Edit: Atlanta was 4th in the league in passing attempts. Chicago was 27th.

The difference is probably that Weems rarely got to play with the offense.