How about this deal for our new GM?

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

 

•The Marlins intend to discuss every available starting pitcher this winter. The free agent market is looking thin, so teams with starters to trade will be in a good position.

 

If Morrison is still in the doghouse - Morrison for Zambrano, Colvin, and $20 million. Marlins fill their new stadium with daily fireworks show from the dugout with Guillen and Zambrano.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I have to say, you might be on to something here. However, I think that any value that Tyler Colvin might have had this time last year has completely dried up, and wed probably have to send them a better young player like Wellington Castillo or Darwin Barney and hopefully, a little less cash, something like 15-17 mil, and maybe get a fringe prospect or 2 as well in the deal. This then gives us the freedom to move Marlon Byrd, or even Soriano if there are any takers.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Morrison is definitely not a bad target, but how is that not overpaying? We got Derrek Lee, a half decade starter at 1B here, for Hee Seop Choi and scrap. He definitely would not be a bad 1B option should they fail at the other 1B options. It'd even be cool if they could get rid of Soriano and replace him with Morrison, though I'm pretty sure he sucks defensively as an OF.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Assuming that the organization has already decided that Z is not a part of the future, every team in the league is aware of the situation. Are there teams who would want him? Sure, but they'll give up as little as possible. If the Marlins are really done with Morrison, he'd be a hell of a lot better return than another Carlos Silva type.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

One of my favorite Z for a young stumbler ideas is Rick Porcello in Detroit. They need the arm behind Verlander, and we could use the young guy with the upside.

 

I forget how interesting an offseason this will be for the Cubs. I thankfully had forgotten about the big contracts not coming off the books.

[Little Slide Rooter]

They have 2 very good arms behind Verlander in Fister (huh huh....Fister) and Scherzer. Zambrano, however might be a very good pickup for them. I think that they have a 2-3 year window where they can just dominate the AL Central, depending on what becomes of the Royals youngsters and how long it takes them to do so. Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Z would be a great rotation to have behind a strong offense, in which Miggy, V Mart, Avila, Boesch, and Jackson are all under team control through at least 2016(Miggy and V 2015), and Young and Peralta through next year.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

They have 2 very good arms behind Verlander in Fister (huh huh....Fister) and Scherzer. Zambrano, however might be a very good pickup for them. I think that they have a 2-3 year window where they can just dominate the AL Central, depending on what becomes of the Royals youngsters and how long it takes them to do so. Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Z would be a great rotation to have behind a strong offense, in which Miggy, V Mart, Avila, Boesch, and Jackson are all under team control through at least 2016(Miggy and V 2015), and Young and Peralta through next year.

 

Z would bring a more legitimatized arm in front of Scherzer and Fister, who are pretty talented. Fister is a Randy Wells type RH getting by more on command and control, and IMO is best as a 4th starter. I think he'd do really well in that ballpark too...

[KingCubsFan]

They have 2 very good arms behind Verlander in Fister (huh huh....Fister) and Scherzer. Zambrano, however might be a very good pickup for them. I think that they have a 2-3 year window where they can just dominate the AL Central, depending on what becomes of the Royals youngsters and how long it takes them to do so. Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Z would be a great rotation to have behind a strong offense, in which Miggy, V Mart, Avila, Boesch, and Jackson are all under team control through at least 2016(Miggy and V 2015), and Young and Peralta through next year.

 

Z would bring a more legitimatized arm in front of Scherzer and Fister, who are pretty talented. Fister is a Randy Wells type RH getting by more on command and control, and IMO is best as a 4th starter. I think he'd do really well in that ballpark too...

Scherzer is 10x better than Zambrano at this stage of their careers. Plus they have Oliver up soon. I have to think the Tigers can get more than Zambrano for Porcello, even if we're paying Zambrano's contract.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

They have 2 very good arms behind Verlander in Fister (huh huh....Fister) and Scherzer. Zambrano, however might be a very good pickup for them. I think that they have a 2-3 year window where they can just dominate the AL Central, depending on what becomes of the Royals youngsters and how long it takes them to do so. Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Z would be a great rotation to have behind a strong offense, in which Miggy, V Mart, Avila, Boesch, and Jackson are all under team control through at least 2016(Miggy and V 2015), and Young and Peralta through next year.

 

Z would bring a more legitimatized arm in front of Scherzer and Fister, who are pretty talented. Fister is a Randy Wells type RH getting by more on command and control, and IMO is best as a 4th starter. I think he'd do really well in that ballpark too...

Scherzer is 10x better than Zambrano at this stage of their careers. Plus they have Oliver up soon. I have to think the Tigers can get more than Zambrano for Porcello, even if we're paying Zambrano's contract.

 

How dare you impinge upon my [expletive] dreams.

[toonsterwu]

Um, what? I don't see the Marlins doing this at all. They may act irrationally at times, but they are fairly good at assessing talent. 20 million in a weak FA market isn't going to buy as much value. LoMo is one of their building blocks.

 

Doesn't mean I don't think they'd ponder moving him, but I don't think they'd do it for an end of the rotation starter, a depth OF, and 20 million to help pay off the Z contract. Now if you are suggesting that we pay 20 million on top of paying the Z contract, then I could see them ponder it perhaps, but that would be idiotic for us and MLB would never approve that version of the deal. Assuming a healthy Josh Johnson, Z would be, potentially, the 5th starter on that team (I'd take a healthy Josh, Ricky Nolasco, Anibal Sanchez easily over Z ... and probably Volstad as well)

[Backtobanks]

Um, what? I don't see the Marlins doing this at all. They may act irrationally at times, but they are fairly good at assessing talent. 20 million in a weak FA market isn't going to buy as much value. LoMo is one of their building blocks.

 

Doesn't mean I don't think they'd ponder moving him, but I don't think they'd do it for an end of the rotation starter, a depth OF, and 20 million to help pay off the Z contract. Now if you are suggesting that we pay 20 million on top of paying the Z contract, then I could see them ponder it perhaps, but that would be idiotic for us and MLB would never approve that version of the deal. Assuming a healthy Josh Johnson, Z would be, potentially, the 5th starter on that team (I'd take a healthy Josh, Ricky Nolasco, Anibal Sanchez easily over Z ... and probably Volstad as well)

 

Obviously the $20 million is to help pay Zambrano, not in addition to paying his whole contract. If all of those pitchers are better than Zambrano, why are they "looking at every available starter" this offseason? Finally Morrison has been in their doghouse for much of the season and he has been the name mentioned as compensation for Guillen coming to the Marlins. If they're going to trade Morrison, I would think the better deal would be a crazy latin pitcher good for 200 innings rather than a crazy latin manager.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Um, what? I don't see the Marlins doing this at all. They may act irrationally at times, but they are fairly good at assessing talent. 20 million in a weak FA market isn't going to buy as much value. LoMo is one of their building blocks.

 

Doesn't mean I don't think they'd ponder moving him, but I don't think they'd do it for an end of the rotation starter, a depth OF, and 20 million to help pay off the Z contract. Now if you are suggesting that we pay 20 million on top of paying the Z contract, then I could see them ponder it perhaps, but that would be idiotic for us and MLB would never approve that version of the deal. Assuming a healthy Josh Johnson, Z would be, potentially, the 5th starter on that team (I'd take a healthy Josh, Ricky Nolasco, Anibal Sanchez easily over Z ... and probably Volstad as well)

 

Obviously the $20 million is to help pay Zambrano, not in addition to paying his whole contract. If all of those pitchers are better than Zambrano, why are they "looking at every available starter" this offseason? Finally Morrison has been in their doghouse for much of the season and he has been the name mentioned as compensation for Guillen coming to the Marlins. If they're going to trade Morrison, I would think the better deal would be a crazy latin pitcher good for 200 innings rather than a crazy latin manager.

 

The Marlins arent going to give them Morrison just for Guillen, but they might send them Gavin Floyd and Guillen for Morrison and a few prospects.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Um, what? I don't see the Marlins doing this at all. They may act irrationally at times, but they are fairly good at assessing talent. 20 million in a weak FA market isn't going to buy as much value. LoMo is one of their building blocks.

 

Doesn't mean I don't think they'd ponder moving him, but I don't think they'd do it for an end of the rotation starter, a depth OF, and 20 million to help pay off the Z contract. Now if you are suggesting that we pay 20 million on top of paying the Z contract, then I could see them ponder it perhaps, but that would be idiotic for us and MLB would never approve that version of the deal. Assuming a healthy Josh Johnson, Z would be, potentially, the 5th starter on that team (I'd take a healthy Josh, Ricky Nolasco, Anibal Sanchez easily over Z ... and probably Volstad as well)

 

Zambrano is at worst their 3...Sanchez is the only guy after Johnson I'd take over him, and I'm not even sure how sure I am about that given that he's pitched in a muuuuuuuuuch better environment for pitchers than Z has. Nolasco is alright I guess, he's certainly not bad....but he's another guy who falls firmly into the Randy Wells realm of pitchers.

[Clem Fandango]

Amy K. Nelson of ESPN.com reports that Logan Morrison has filed a grievance against the Marlins in regards to his August demotion.

According to Nelson, Morrison argues that he was disciplined without "just cause." The Marlins surprised many around baseball with their decision and while they argued that his demotion was performance-related, he returned to the majors as soon as he was eligible after batting just .167 (4-for-24) with one home run and five RBI at Triple-A New Orleans. It remains to be seen whether he will be vindicated, but this certainly won't help his apparent crumbling relationship with the organization