Grady Sizemore

[RynoRules]

He could be bought out at the end of the season, as his option is worth a bit over $8 million. Obviously he hasn't played like he did early in his career and has had injuries, but he's only 29 and is still putting up an OPS over 100 while playing CF.

 

Would you be interested if the price were right - say 2/13 or 3/18?

[Clem Fandango]

As a Soriano replacement in LF, sure (assuming we can move Soriano). Center field belongs to Brett Jackson, as far as I'm concerned.

[RynoRules]

As a Soriano replacement in LF, sure (assuming we can move Soriano). Center field belongs to Brett Jackson, as far as I'm concerned.

 

Right - CF belongs to Jackson. Sizemore in LF would be the move.

[Clem Fandango]

Do we have any guys coming up through the system who can man LF that he might block during those years? I'm assuming we don't.

[Guest]

Do we have any guys coming up through the system who can man LF that he might block during those years? I'm assuming we don't.

Sczur. Ha. Potentially Vitters.

 

Other guys in the lower minors.

[mookie]

I have absolutely no interest in Grady Sizemore. He is banged up, and continues to be banged up. Lets not go for the hobbled.

[Clem Fandango]

In that case, signing Sizemore to a two year deal at a reasonable low-risk/high-reward type price might be worth the gamble. Looks like those guys are a couple years out from making the majors.

 

If the Cubs were to splurge for Pujols or Fielder and had a hole to fill in LF and Sizemore were available for that, yeah why not?

 

Having Sizemore, Pujols/Fielder, Castro, Ramirez, Soto, and Jackson in the lineup sounds pretty fun.

 

Plus it will make all the women in Chicago extra horny.

[Clem Fandango]

I have absolutely no interest in Grady Sizemore. He is banged up, and continues to be banged up. Lets not go for the hobbled.

 

I agree to an extent, but if Soriano is moved we have this to look at for FA's:

 

Bobby Abreu LAA *

Rick Ankiel WAS

Carlos Beltran NYM

Milton Bradley SEA

Pat Burrell SF

Mike Cameron BOS

Coco Crisp OAK

Michael Cuddyer MIN

Jack Cust SEA

Johnny Damon TB

David DeJesus OAK

J.D. Drew BOS

Jeff Francoeur KC *

Kosuke Fukudome CHC

Jonny Gomes CIN

Gabe Gross OAK

Vladimir Guerrero BAL

Carlos Guillen DET

Scott Hairston NYM

Willie Harris NYM

Raul Ibanez PHI

Conor Jackson OAK

Andruw Jones NYY

Austin Kearns CLE

Jason Kubel MIN

Ryan Ludwick SD

Hideki Matsui OAK

Nate McLouth ATL *

Jason Michaels HOU

Laynce Nix WAS

Magglio Ordonez DET

Juan Pierre CWS

Juan Rivera TOR

Cody Ross SF

Grady Sizemore CLE *

Matt Stairs WAS

Nick Swisher NYY *

Marcus Thames LAD

Josh Willingham OAK

 

Beltran will still probably fetch $10 mil per year, albeit for a short contract. Cuddyer could be an interesting option, but will probably also fetch more than Sizemore will get.

 

I think of everyone else on the list the only other person who pops out (Not counting Swisher as he'll likely be retained), is Josh Willingham. He would probably come cheaper than Sizemore as he's generally flown under the radar. He needs to get out of Oakland.

 

Yeah, I might be on board for Willingham instead. He'd probably be cheap and productive. He'll be 33 though, kinda older than I thought he was

[Little Slide Rooter]

I have absolutely no interest in Grady Sizemore. He is banged up, and continues to be banged up. Lets not go for the hobbled.

 

I agree to an extent, but if Soriano is moved we have this to look at for FA's:

 

Bobby Abreu LAA *

Rick Ankiel WAS

Carlos Beltran NYM

Milton Bradley SEA

Pat Burrell SF

Mike Cameron BOS

Coco Crisp OAK

Michael Cuddyer MIN

Jack Cust SEA

Johnny Damon TB

David DeJesus OAK

J.D. Drew BOS

Jeff Francoeur KC *

Kosuke Fukudome CHC

Jonny Gomes CIN

Gabe Gross OAK

Vladimir Guerrero BAL

Carlos Guillen DET

Scott Hairston NYM

Willie Harris NYM

Raul Ibanez PHI

Conor Jackson OAK

Andruw Jones NYY

Austin Kearns CLE

Jason Kubel MIN

Ryan Ludwick SD

Hideki Matsui OAK

Nate McLouth ATL *

Jason Michaels HOU

Laynce Nix WAS

Magglio Ordonez DET

Juan Pierre CWS

Juan Rivera TOR

Cody Ross SF

Grady Sizemore CLE *

Matt Stairs WAS

Nick Swisher NYY *

Marcus Thames LAD

Josh Willingham OAK

 

Beltran will still probably fetch $10 mil per year, albeit for a short contract. Cuddyer could be an interesting option, but will probably also fetch more than Sizemore will get.

 

I think of everyone else on the list the only other person who pops out (Not counting Swisher as he'll likely be retained), is Josh Willingham. He would probably come cheaper than Sizemore as he's generally flown under the radar. He needs to get out of Oakland.

 

Yeah, I might be on board for Willingham instead. He'd probably be cheap and productive. He'll be 33 though, kinda older than I thought he was

 

We could go with Colvin, Jackson, Byrd across the outfield, and if Colvin keeps falling on his face, make a midseason trade if we're in it. I wonder how much Jason Kubel would cost. Didn't know he was an FA. And not that I'd want him, but you can strike Francoeurs name from the list. The Royals gave him a 2 year extension.

[Clem Fandango]

For some reason I keep forgetting that Marlon Byrd exists

[erik316wttn]

If you could do low base with incentives based on games played or plate appearances I'd bite, but I doubt he'd take it and someone will probably overpay. I'd rather it not be us.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

If you could do low base with incentives based on games played or plate appearances I'd bite, but I doubt he'd take it and someone will probably overpay. I'd rather it not be us.

 

If he'd come on a cheap, incentive laden one year deal to try to rebuild his value, then he's really not a bad idea. He's still been an above average hitter in two of the past three seasons, and at his age there's probably upside.

 

I actually have him behind Beltran as the OF I'd sign, but both would require highly stipulated situations. Both should only be a secondary FA signing/offseason move behind bringing in a big bat or big pitcher. Both should be short on years. Beltran should be paid properly if he's brought in (12-15? That's not my job), and Sizemore should be bought at a number that sounds just enough to be a strong steal if he threw up a seemingly random 3 or even 4 WAR season. 8 million keeps popping into my head, so I'll go with 8 million as the high end number base number.

[RynoRules]

If you could do low base with incentives based on games played or plate appearances I'd bite, but I doubt he'd take it and someone will probably overpay. I'd rather it not be us.

 

If he'd come on a cheap, incentive laden one year deal to try to rebuild his value, then he's really not a bad idea. He's still been an above average hitter in two of the past three seasons, and at his age there's probably upside.

 

I actually have him behind Beltran as the OF I'd sign, but both would require highly stipulated situations. Both should only be a secondary FA signing/offseason move behind bringing in a big bat or big pitcher. Both should be short on years. Beltran should be paid properly if he's brought in (12-15? That's not my job), and Sizemore should be bought at a number that sounds just enough to be a strong steal if he threw up a seemingly random 3 or even 4 WAR season. 8 million keeps popping into my head, so I'll go with 8 million as the high end number base number.

 

If the base number is 8 mill I'd rather spend a few mill more per year and get Beltran. I would, however, do 6 mill in base and another 2 or 3 mill in incentives for Grady. The incentives would be rooted in AB's and OPS (though I'm not sure anyone uses OPS as a measure for contract incentives).

[Sammy Sofa]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

[Shilzzz]

I have absolutely no interest in Grady Sizemore. He is banged up, and continues to be banged up. Lets not go for the hobbled.

 

the offensive rich harden.

[photoguy9883]

...Plus it will make all the women in Chicago extra horny.

 

Let me tell you it won't just be the women.

[Outshined_One]

We could go with Colvin, Jackson, Byrd across the outfield

 

That OF would not be good.

 

I like Jackson's future, but I don't think the Cubs should count on him next season to put up better than a .750 OPS. Given his propensity to strike out, I get the feeling he'll need time to adjust to major league pitching and will go through plenty of growing pains next season.

 

Byrd's a fine player, but he loses some value when moved to a corner spot.

 

As for Colvin...egh. He's better than his current numbers indicate, but I don't think he'll ever hit enough and walk enough to merit being a full-time starter at a corner OF spot. As a left handed power hitter who can spot start in all three OF spots and come off the bench, he's fine. As a full-time starter in the OF, I have my doubts.

 

If Soriano gets traded, this team will need to bring in a free agent or make a trade. Matt Kemp would be ideal. Andre Ethier would be good.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

As far as trading for a franchise OF goes....Justin Upton >>>> Matt KemP. I'm not as big on Kemp as maybe I should be. I feel like he's a COF about to be paid like a CF.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

That's the only way paying an injury-prone 35-year-old OF $12-15 million a year makes any damn sense.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

That's the only way paying an injury-prone 35-year-old OF $12-15 million a year makes any damn sense.

 

After the mess the previous manager left the team in, that's the last thing that the next one is going to want to do.

[Sammy Sofa]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

That's the only way paying an injury-prone 35-year-old OF $12-15 million a year makes any damn sense.

 

After the mess the previous manager left the team in, that's the last thing that the next one is going to want to do.

 

Yeah, I really have zero interest in Beltran given the other FA available who better address some of the team's needs both now and in the long run. Plus guys like Kemp and Ethier likely being available after 2012.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

That's the only way paying an injury-prone 35-year-old OF $12-15 million a year makes any damn sense.

 

After the mess the previous manager left the team in, that's the last thing that the next one is going to want to do.

 

Yeah, I really have zero interest in Beltran given the other FA available who better address some of the team's needs both now and in the long run. Plus guys like Kemp and Ethier likely being available after 2012.

 

Plus looking at that list of FA outfielders, someone will give Beltran a 3 year deal.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

That's the only way paying an injury-prone 35-year-old OF $12-15 million a year makes any damn sense.

 

Well he's a better player than guys like Cuddeyer or Willingham, neither of whom is a spring chicken themselves. OF looks like te perfect place to upgrade with a trade given the FA options....Ethier over Kemp please.

[Outshined_One]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

As far as trading for a franchise OF goes....Justin Upton >>>> Matt KemP. I'm not as big on Kemp as maybe I should be. I feel like he's a COF about to be paid like a CF.

 

I know he was rumored to be available earlier in the year, but given his recent breakout, I have a difficult time seeing the Diamondbacks trading him. I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure how the Cubs could get him.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Why is Beltran only signing a 1-year contract?

 

Nobody said that.

 

As far as trading for a franchise OF goes....Justin Upton >>>> Matt KemP. I'm not as big on Kemp as maybe I should be. I feel like he's a COF about to be paid like a CF.

 

I know he was rumored to be available earlier in the year, but given his recent breakout, I have a difficult time seeing the Diamondbacks trading him. I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure how the Cubs could get him.

 

I could say the same thing about Kemp. Both have been made available in the world of flimsy rumors, and I'd much rather pay for Upton than Kemp. I'd way overpay for Upton over Kemp, which is what's going to happen with either. Still, in the end I'm just playing pipe dream...

 

Of the two Dodger guys I'd take Ethier.