Is Bob Brenly going to be our next manager?

[Getting there]

Hi, Alfonso, my name is Bob. Welcome to the bench for not hustling. Next?

 

CUBS ARE NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer the question. Are you saying hustling does not help win games? I mean, you did say that, right?

 

I said what this team is lacking is not more hustle. A lack of hustle is not why this team sucks and why this team has performed so underwhelmingly throughout the Jim Hendry era. The reason this team isn't good is because Jim Hendry is a bad GM. It is not because they lack a manager who will bench Soriano.

 

I said they lack more than hustle as well. I said it is part of it.

[jersey cubs fan]

But you keep only mentioning bunts when it comes to "sound baseball." Why are bunts so important to you?

 

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things.

 

You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him.

 

How about not buying into the BS that Dave Kaplan is selling?

[MSG T]

Interestingly, no one can say who they'd want to manage this team. Take shots but offer no alternatives.

 

Quade would be fine if they get him better players.

[Getting there]

But you keep only mentioning bunts when it comes to "sound baseball." Why are bunts so important to you?

 

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things.

 

You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him.

 

How about not buying into the BS that Dave Kaplan is selling?

 

Dave Kaplan? I agree, I think he is a blowhard. However, I have seen plenty of this team over the years. I do not need Kaplan to tell me.

[Sammy Sofa]

But you keep only mentioning bunts when it comes to "sound baseball." Why are bunts so important to you?

 

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things.

 

You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him.

 

They REFUSE to do "the little things?" That's absurd.

 

And to go from "they only hit home runs" to "WE NEED MORE BUNTS" is even more absurd. Talk about going from one flawed extreme to another. What's much more glaring is the lack of patience and lack of hitting ability, not [expletive] bunting.

 

And like I said, I don't care if Brenly is the manager if the team is good. I just think the idea that he'd improve the team is dumb.

[pitchcs]

I wouldn't necessarily mind Bob Brenly as the manager that much, but saying that he would do well because he would yell at Soriano and bunt more is stupid.

[MSG T]

But you keep only mentioning bunts when it comes to "sound baseball." Why are bunts so important to you?

 

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things.

 

You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him.

 

But unless you're talking about pitchers not named Zambrano, bunting is stupid in most situations. This team doesn't need to bunt more, they need to not swing at bad pitches, they need to try to work the count and see more pitches instead of going up there and hacking away. The defense needs to have better range and field the ball cleanly then make good throws.

 

In essence, they need better players.

[Getting there]

I wouldn't necessarily mind Bob Brenly as the manager that much, but saying that he would do well because he would yell at Soriano and bunt more is stupid.

 

I used Soriano as an example. And I said I want a more sound team, not a bumbling, not hitting the cutoff man, bad base running team. You name it, this team does bad in a spectacular fashion. A good manager could change much of this.

[pitchcs]

I wouldn't necessarily mind Bob Brenly as the manager that much, but saying that he would do well because he would yell at Soriano and bunt more is stupid.

 

I used Soriano as an example. And I said I want a more sound team, not a bumbling, not hitting the cutoff man, bad base running team. You name it, this team does bad in a spectacular fashion. A good manager could change much of this.

 

 

They also have a 21 year old at SS, a 25 year old rookie at 2B and a bunch of AAAA players filling in the OF for half the year. That's what young players do unfortunately.

[treebird]

the cubs have a bad record because they players that have played this year haven't hit very well or pitched very well or defended very well.

 

it's not because they don't do little things, it's because they don't do big things. a good manager can't roll in and say HEY EVERYBODY RUN FASTER and then everyone does it and we play .600 ball.

[Getting there]

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said.

 

"We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer.

 

Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage.

 

"That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact."

 

Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect.

 

"I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

[Tryptamine]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

[Getting there]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

 

Waiting for the right opportunity?

[Sammy Sofa]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

 

Waiting for the right opportunity?

 

I can't believe two people in this thread have said that Brenly chose to stay in the booth instead of taking a managing job. All of the reports in the offseason indicated that he was, yet again, trying his damndest to get hired as a manager, including with the Cubs, and came back emptyhanded.

[Sammy Sofa]

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said.

 

"We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer.

 

Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage.

 

"That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact."

 

Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect.

 

"I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

 

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker.

[Getting there]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

 

Waiting for the right opportunity?

 

I can't believe two people in this thread have said that Brenly chose to stay in the booth instead of taking a managing job. All of the reports in the offseason indicated that he was, yet again, trying his damndest to get hired as a manager, including with the Cubs, and came back emptyhanded.

 

Umm, Brenly took himself out of consideration for the Cubs job in Sept 2010. Seems like old Bob has plenty of respect around the league though.

[Sammy Sofa]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

 

Waiting for the right opportunity?

 

I can't believe two people in this thread have said that Brenly chose to stay in the booth instead of taking a managing job. All of the reports in the offseason indicated that he was, yet again, trying his damndest to get hired as a manager, including with the Cubs, and came back emptyhanded.

 

Umm, Brenly took himself out of consideration for the Cubs job in Sept 2010. Seems like old Bob has plenty of respect around the league though.

 

Yes, when it was made abundantly clear to him he wasn't getting the job. The same answer he's gotten everywhere else in the majors when he's looked into managing since 2004.

 

The idea that he's this highly sought-after manager who is willfully being a color man instead of in a dugout is laughable.

Edited July 12, 2011 by Sammy Sofa

[Getting there]

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said.

 

"We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer.

 

Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage.

 

"That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact."

 

Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect.

 

"I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

 

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker.

 

And I hope you'll agree that Quade has proven to be pretty bad at mananging a baseball team.

[Getting there]

Nuts and Gum,

 

Seriously, what do you not like about Brenly being the manager for the Cubs?

[Sammy Sofa]

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said.

 

"We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer.

 

Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage.

 

"That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact."

 

Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect.

 

"I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

 

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker.

 

And I hope you'll agree that Quade has proven to be pretty bad at mananging a baseball team.

 

He's done some things I don't like, but I'd have zero problem with him managing a better baseball team. No manager was going to make this team better.

[Sammy Sofa]

Nuts and Gum,

 

Seriously, what do you not like about Brenly being the manager for the Cubs?

 

I said I really didn't care if he was the manager. He loves all the stupid "small ball" garbage that ultimately means squat, but in the end he was a pretty run of the mill manager. Give him a good team and I'd likely have little issue with him, though I'd say the same thing about Quade, too.

[Getting there]

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said.

 

"We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer.

 

Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage.

 

"That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact."

 

Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect.

 

"I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

 

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker.

 

And I hope you'll agree that Quade has proven to be pretty bad at mananging a baseball team.

 

He's done some things I don't like, but I'd have zero problem with him managing a better baseball team. No manager was going to make this team better.

 

So his blatant mis-managing of the pitching staff and pen is fine with you? Really? REALLY?

[Benchwarmer]

If Brenly was such a great manager, as you seem to believe, then why is he still in the booth? I wouldn't be particularly upset if the Cubs did hire him, but don't pretend like he's some cure all to the many problems this organization has.

 

Waiting for the right opportunity?

 

I can't believe two people in this thread have said that Brenly chose to stay in the booth instead of taking a managing job. All of the reports in the offseason indicated that he was, yet again, trying his damndest to get hired as a manager, including with the Cubs, and came back emptyhanded.

 

Maybe Brenly doesn't want to take ANY managerial job. It could be that once he gets into the negotiations, he sees how the franchise is run by the owners and says no thanks. There's plenty of reasons... He's got a good job in broadcasting and isn't desperate. If the right job opens up and he's interested then, he'll interview.

 

Bunting is a fundamental of the game and EVERYONE needs to know how to do it. Like how to throw to the right base, etc.. Even slow-footed ARAM needs to know how to bunt.

[Getting there]

Nuts and Gum,

 

Seriously, what do you not like about Brenly being the manager for the Cubs?

 

I said I really didn't care if he was the manager. He loves all the stupid "small ball" garbage that ultimately means squat, but in the end he was a pretty run of the mill manager. Give him a good team and I'd likely have little issue with him, though I'd say the same thing about Quade, too.

 

Ok, fair enough. That said, 71 bunts is not exactly a ton. He seemed to pick his spots when the game situation called for it.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's done some things I don't like, but I'd have zero problem with him managing a better baseball team. No manager was going to make this team better.

 

So his blatant mis-managing of the pitching staff and pen is fine with you? Really? REALLY?

 

REALLY?!?!?!

 

No, those are the main things of the "things I don't like" about him that I mentioned in the very post you quoted. He's left his starters in an inning too long too many times this season, and his use of Mateo was a dick move, but in the grand scheme of things, no, I don't find him to be an exceptionally bad manager. The Cubs haven't lost most of their games due to his handling of the pitchers. They've lost most of their games by not being very good.