2010-2011 Chicago Bulls Thread

[SpongeWorthy]

What am I supposed to be worrying about?

[bukie]

What am I supposed to be worrying about?

Apparently Rose needs to stop trying to shoot 3's, because it's been absolutely killing the team since the All-Star break.

[17 Seconds]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

[SpongeWorthy]

I didn't see tonight's game but all the people raging about Rose's 3 point attempts...are you actually watching the games? I haven't seen him get out of line. When you're sagging way the [expletive] off and clogging all the pass/driving lanes, he needs to take (and make) them. Forcing drives that aren't there are just as bad as forcing bad perimeter shots. And if someone kept a statistic this dumb I'm sure Rose would lead the league in end of quarter heaves because he's the only ball handler on the team.

 

Anyway, stop letting an idiot like Hollinger get in your head. He's a buffoon.

[bukie]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that.

[SpongeWorthy]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

 

What specific 3 point attempts have you had a problem with? I haven't seen them. There's been a heat check, here and there, but by and large he's getting decent looks that any #1 perimeter scorer needs to make (and he's more of that than he is a PG). He's probably tired and needs another offseason to make his release point more consistent.

 

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

[17 Seconds]

i don't read hollinger

 

and you don't "need" to take the open 3 if you are kissing them over and over and over.

 

rose shot well from three for like.... 2 months? he sucked his first 2 years, and he sucks this year. i think he's forcing it to be part of his game even though it's hurting him.

[SpongeWorthy]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that.

 

Playoffs are a different animal. I do think the Bulls are probably putting too much pressure on themselves to play 48 minutes of great defense.

[17 Seconds]

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

 

haha.

 

you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate.

 

he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.

[SpongeWorthy]

i don't read hollinger

 

and you don't "need" to take the open 3 if you are kissing them over and over and over.

 

rose shot well from three for like.... 2 months? he sucked his first 2 years, and he sucks this year. i think he's forcing it to be part of his game even though it's hurting him.

 

I literally haven't seen him force it at all.

 

Seriously, any #1 perimeter scorer worth his salt takes those shots. All of them.

[17 Seconds]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that.

 

yes because winning one game in the regular season is exactly the same as beating a team 4 out of 7 times in the postseason

 

great post

[SpongeWorthy]

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

 

haha.

 

you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate.

 

he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.

 

Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum.

[17 Seconds]

i don't read hollinger

 

and you don't "need" to take the open 3 if you are kissing them over and over and over.

 

rose shot well from three for like.... 2 months? he sucked his first 2 years, and he sucks this year. i think he's forcing it to be part of his game even though it's hurting him.

 

I literally haven't seen him force it at all.

 

Seriously, any #1 perimeter scorer worth his salt takes those shots. All of them.

 

you aren't even making sense. first of all, i never said he's forcing up the shots. he's getting good looks, he's not making them.

 

why? because rose isn't a three point shooter. he's NOT a perimeter scorer.

[17 Seconds]

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

 

haha.

 

you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate.

 

he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.

Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum.

 

preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick

[bukie]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that.

 

yes because winning one game in the regular season is exactly the same as beating a team 4 out of 7 times in the postseason

 

great post

You specifically asked if they could beat boston/miami/orlando with Rose going 8-21 or similar...and he and they did exactly that against both Orlando and Miami this year.

 

The Bulls have been absolutely cruising for 4 solid months now, so I think you're just begging for something to bitch about.

 

Go for it, if you want to choose to be ignorant about things.

[SpongeWorthy]

Compare Rose's 3 pointer percentages and volumes to Wade, Lebron, and Kobe. They're pretty damn similar.

[bukie]

Compare Rose's 3 pointer percentages and volumes to Wade, Lebron, and Kobe. They're pretty damn similar.

Don't forget Carmelo and Durant, too.

[SpongeWorthy]

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

 

haha.

 

you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate.

 

he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.

Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum.

 

preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick

 

Yes that would be nice. Or he could pass it to the bevy of ball handlers around him or his reliably healthy low post options.

[17 Seconds]

i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44%

 

that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them.

 

you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't

You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that.

 

yes because winning one game in the regular season is exactly the same as beating a team 4 out of 7 times in the postseason

 

great post

You specifically asked if they could beat boston/miami/orlando with Rose going 8-21 or similar...and he and they did exactly that against both Orlando and Miami this year.

 

i was obviously asking if they could beat them in a playoff series, not a single regular season game. and you say i'm being ignorant?

 

The Bulls have been absolutely cruising for 4 solid months now, so I think you're just begging for something to bitch about.

 

or i'm concerned that the guy who will have to carry us in the postseason is now shooting below 44%

 

if rose played for any other team, you guys would be saying the same stuff.

[Sammy Sofa]

Rose is done.

[17 Seconds]

Compare Rose's 3 pointer percentages and volumes to Wade, Lebron, and Kobe. They're pretty damn similar.

 

now compare their field goal percentages. also, rose is taking more three's than any of those guys.

[17 Seconds]

Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.

 

haha.

 

you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate.

 

he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.

Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum.

 

preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick

 

Yes that would be nice. Or he could pass it to the bevy of ball handlers around him or his reliably healthy low post options.

 

so you're okay with him continuing to do the one thing that is being proven every night to fail?

 

i don't understand how you can justify taking a bunch of threes that you're likely to miss just because you're open.

[17 Seconds]

i can't believe how pissy people get when you point out obvious weaknesses/concerns with rose. jesus.

[bukie]

i can't believe how pissy people get when you point out obvious weaknesses/concerns with rose. jesus.

Oh, please, that's not what you're doing.

 

You chime in after every bad shooting game saying he has no business even trying to shoot 3's, and are completely silent when he has a good game. You act as if he's killing the team with his shot selection, which is just factually baseless.

Edited March 18, 2011 by bukie

[17 Seconds]

i can't believe how pissy people get when you point out obvious weaknesses/concerns with rose. jesus.

Oh, please, that's not what you're doing.

 

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