Would you accept this trade?

[The Logan]

I'm struggling for pitching, both starting and relieving. My league is not very deep. Our offensive stats are H, R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OPS and our pitching is W, L, SV, HLD, K, WHIP, ERA.

 

I'm considering offering another team:

 

Vernon Wells

Kelly Johnson

 

for

 

Brian Wilson

Dan Haren

 

It's a case of buy low, sell high. I'm not sure if Wells will keep this pace and I know Johnson won't, but the other team is currently trotting Christian Guzman out to 2B and he has a surplus of relievers and starters, including Rivera, Nunez, Jenks, Okajima, and Affeldt in the pen and Lincecum, Jimenez, Hanson, and Price in his rotation (we're in a keeper league with unique rules, which is how he was able to pile up that many quality arms).

 

If you were in his position, would you consider the trade? His current OF consists of Lind, Heyward, and Quentin, w/ Bourn, Podsednik, and Manny on the bench. All of which except Heyward have been disappointments. I was thinking of adding Lind to the fray and try to get him in the deal as well.

 

I already have Aaron Hill at 2B who has been the benefactor of some terrible luck this season, so all metrics point to him starting to mash the ball soon, and he has been the past week and a half (HR wise, anyways). If the trade were to go through I can pick up guys like Jay Bruce, Corey Hart, Drew Stubbs, or JD Drew, who would slot in with McCutchen, Crawford, and Gardner who are my only other outfielders.

[MPrior]

If I were him, I don't think I'd accept, although I'd be very tempted - Kelly Johnson will certainly regress, but I'd bet that he remains a very valuable 2B (he just won't hit quite so many homers). Basically the same thing could be said about Vernon Wells.

 

However, he'd be giving up one of the best starters in the game AND one of the best relievers in the game for two questionable players. And it's hard to stomach giving up the only two elite players in the trade, even accounting for the fact that position players are more valuable than pitchers.

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't know that I'd do the trade, but Brian Wilson isn't elite. He may get there, but a year and a quarter of very good numbers isn't elite territory.

 

And Haren's second half slides are as dependable as the sun. He's elite in the first half and an albatross in the playoffs.

 

So he may make that trade, but I'm not sure Haren is who you want as your ace in the 2nd half.

[The Logan]

I don't know that I'd do the trade, but Brian Wilson isn't elite. He may get there, but a year and a quarter of very good numbers isn't elite territory.

 

And Haren's second half slides are as dependable as the sun. He's elite in the first half and an albatross in the playoffs.

 

So he may make that trade, but I'm not sure Haren is who you want as your ace in the 2nd half.

 

I offered the trade w/ Lind in the mix.

 

Here's my pitching...

 

Felix Hernandez

Phil Hughes

Francisco Liriano

Clayton Kershaw

Ian Kennedy

Mat Latos

Jake Peavy

Stephen Strasburg

 

Reliever:

Kerry Wood

Luke Gregerson

Mike Gonzalez (DL)

Huston Street (DL)

 

 

In about a week and a half I'll have Stephen Strasburg there and he could be my ace in the hole. And obviously my relievers are pure crap. I had Hoffman but eff that guy, dropped him.

 

I'm not really concerned if Haren ends up torching the league or not, it's more of a keeper rule exploitation. Our keeper rules state that if you draft someone and keep him on your roster the whole year you may keep him next year by relinquishing a draft pick two rounds prior to where you drafted him the year before. Haren would cost this guy a 1st rounder, so he'll never do that. Our rules also state that if you trade for or pick up a player you did not draft, you may keep him based on his final Yahoo ranking. Take his final ranking, divide by the number of teams in the league (in this case 10), and subtract 1 and that's the draft pick round you relinquish. If Haren ends up sucking in the 2nd half, he'll likely be very lowly rated because of the fact that he is that way right now. Maybe in the 300-500 range. That would cost me a 25th round pick, my last. It's more of a strategy than an attempt to get better. Plus like I said, he already has several of the most elite pitchers in the league this year, losing Haren would probably help him moreso than hurt him since he's been not so good. Meanwhile my pitching, on paper, looks good but for whatever reason they aren't getting the job done. When Strasburg comes up it will likely get much better.

 

Though I understand why you two would not do it, like I said I'm hoping to buy low and sell high. We all know Wells and Johnson are not elite players, but they are performing really well right now to the point where maybe I can get something like this out of them. Plus he's a Braves homer and might like the fact that he can have former Braves great Kelly Johnson... and yes, most Braves fans around here loved Kelly Johnson like he was their own.

 

P.S. if this deal goes through I would end up dropping Peavy. How sad is it that I'd drop Peavy before Gregerson to make room for someone? Man he sucks this year. If he didn't have such terrible road splits during his time in San Diego I'd probably keep him but all evidence points to this being more like him than not.

[The Logan]

He accepted, but I tossed him my 2011 5th rounder in the deal to seal it. I'm pretty satisfied. Haren could really help, and even if he doesn't he will cost me a very very low draft pick next year