Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-7-10

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa won 4-2 Box Score

 

CF S. Fuld 3/4, BB, R, 2B (1)

SS D. Barney 0/4, K, HBP

RF B. Snyder 0/4, K

1B M. Hoffpauir 3/3, BB, 2 RBI, 2B (6)

DH C. Robinson 0/4, K

LF B. LaHair 0/3, BB, 2 K

C W. Castillo 0/3, BB, R, K, 2 PB (3)

3B B. Scales 0/3, BB, R, K

2B M. Camp 2/4, R, 2 RBI, 2B (5)

SP T. Diamond 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 5/5 K/BB, 6-3 GO-FO

RP J. Samardzija 2 scoreless, 1 H, 3/1 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO

RP J. Gaub 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2/2 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO

RP B. Schlitter 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2/1 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Tennessee lost 6-1 Box Score

 

CF T. Campana 3/4

SS M. Gonzalez 0/4

LF T. Wright 0/4

C R. Chirinos 0/4

RF M. Spencer 1/3, R, RBI, HR (3)

PH S. Clevenger 0/1, K

3B J. Vitters 1/2, 2 E (throw x 2)

3B J. Opitz 0/1, E (4, fielding)

2B/RF T. Thomas 0/2, HBP

SP HW Chen 5.2 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2/4 K/BB, WP, 4-8 GO-FO

RP D. Sasser 1.1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 0/1 K/BB, WP, 2-2 GO-FO

RP D. Cales 2 scoreless, 0 H, 2/1 K/BB, 3-1 GO-FO

 

Daytona lost 8-3 Box Score

 

CF B. Jackson 3/4, R, CS (4)

3B R. Flaherty 1/4, R, RBI, 2B (1)

1B R. Ridling 1/4, K, SB (1)

RF K. Burke 1/4, RBI, 2 K

2B DJ LeMahieu 0/4, K

DH N. Perez 0/3, BB

SS J. Lake 0/3, BB, K, CS (4)

SP A. Cabrera 5.1 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 7/2 K/BB, HR, 4-2 GO-FO

RP J. Beliveau 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HR, 3-1 GO-FO

RP M. Perconte 2 IP, 4 H, 5 ER, 3/4 K/BB, Balk, 1-1 GO-FO

 

Peoria won 10-5 Box Score

 

SS HJ Lee 0/3, 2 BB, HBP, 2 E (10, throw, fielding)

2B L. Watkins 2/5, BB, R, CS (3), E (4, fielding)

3B M. Cerda 1/3, 2 BB, 3 R, K

LF G. Rohan 1/4, 3 R, 2 RBI, 2B (9), 2 K, 2 HBP

1B J. Bour 2/3, 2 BB, R

C J. Mota 2/4, 4 RBI, 2B (1)

DH DJ Fitzgerald 2/5, R, RBI, K, SB (2)

RF R. Jones 1/4, BB, R, RBI, 2B (7)

CF J. Valdez 0/5, K

SP K. McNutt 4+ IP, 2 H, 4 ER, 5/4 K/BB, 5-2 GO-FO

RP R. Morla 1.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HR, 2-2 GO-FO

RP J. Leverton 2.1 scoreless, 2 H, 2/0 K/BB, 3-2 GO-FO

RP J. Latham 1 scoreless, 0 H, 1/2 K/BB, WP, 1-1 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 2-2

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Thomas Diamond (1-0, 1.65 ERA, 27.1 IP, 11 BB, 23 K)

Tennessee: RHP Hung-Wen Chen (3-1, 2.40 ERA, 30 IP, 6 BB, 15 K)

Daytona: RHP Alberto Cabrera (2-2, 3.81 ERA, 26 IP, 3 BB, 23 K)

Peoria: TBA

[Little Slide Rooter]

Decent but not spectacular night on day 1 of the post Starlin Castro era of the farm system

 

Iowa

Thomas Diamond 5IP 4 H 2R 1 ER 5BB 5K

Jeff Samardzjia 2IP 0ER 1BB 3K

 

Tenn

HW Chen 5.2 IP 4R 3ER 4BB 2K

Vitters 1-2

Campana 3-4

Spencer 1-3 HR, BB

 

Daytona

B Jax 3-4

[sporrer17]

Decent but not spectacular night on day 1 of the post Starlin Castro era of the farm system

 

Iowa

Thomas Diamond 5IP 4 H 2R 1 ER 5BB 5K

Jeff Samardzjia 2IP 0ER 1BB 3K

 

Tenn

HW Chen 5.2 IP 4R 3ER 4BB 2K

Vitters 1-2

Campana 3-4

Spencer 1-3 HR, BB

 

Daytona

B Jax 3-4

 

I'd guess he's next in line to see a promotion, probably beginning of June if he keeps his average and OBP up.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Decent but not spectacular night on day 1 of the post Starlin Castro era of the farm system

 

Iowa

Thomas Diamond 5IP 4 H 2R 1 ER 5BB 5K

Jeff Samardzjia 2IP 0ER 1BB 3K

 

Tenn

HW Chen 5.2 IP 4R 3ER 4BB 2K

Vitters 1-2

Campana 3-4

Spencer 1-3 HR, BB

 

Daytona

B Jax 3-4

 

I'd guess he's next in line to see a promotion, probably beginning of June if he keeps his average and OBP up.

 

Doubtful. The Castro call up was doable because he had an everyday spot to play. Jackson would be a 5th or 6th outfielder, and the last thing you want is a top prospect riding the bench. Besides, we'll need to at least see what he can do in AA at some point before even thinking big leagues.

[Guest]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

[davell]

McNutt was cruising until he hit the 5th. He had only allowed 2 walks and no hits at that point. And wound up giving up 4 runs on 2 hits and 2 walks without recording an out in the 5th.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

[illiniguy]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

You're operating on the assumption that all guys in the system are there to make it to the big leagues. That's not the case at all and those guys at AAA still hold value. They are there in case Aramis goes down so we don't have to either trade for a 3B or rush up Josh Vitters. They are also there to help mentor any of the real prospects we do send to Iowa. There is no reason to start getting rid of all of them.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

You're operating on the assumption that all guys in the system are there to make it to the big leagues. That's not the case at all and those guys at AAA still hold value. They are there in case Aramis goes down so we don't have to either trade for a 3B or rush up Josh Vitters. They are also there to help mentor any of the real prospects we do send to Iowa. There is no reason to start getting rid of all of them.

 

But how many of these guys do we need? Fuld is good to have as a backup CF if needed, and Hoffpauir has had some major league success and can play both 1B or RF if the need ever arrises. Brad Snyder is a nice slugger, who Ive heard can play a respectable outfield, and I guess if Nady gets hurt, or they decide that Colvin would be better of playing every day in Iowa than riding the big league bench, hed be a good guy to call on. Scales, from what Ive heard of him seems the be the type of guy who can move on to coaching. I know LaHair was a near top prospect at one point, but that was many moon ago, and DuBois keeps popping up every year probably just as a favor to him. Wouldnt it be better to give some of the younger guys a chance before they fall into the AAAA catagory? Im not saying get rid of them all, but at least stop signing these guys in the off season when we have our own guys who could be given the promotion instead.

[illiniguy]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

You're operating on the assumption that all guys in the system are there to make it to the big leagues. That's not the case at all and those guys at AAA still hold value. They are there in case Aramis goes down so we don't have to either trade for a 3B or rush up Josh Vitters. They are also there to help mentor any of the real prospects we do send to Iowa. There is no reason to start getting rid of all of them.

 

 

But how many of these guys do we need? Fuld is good to have as a backup CF if needed, and Hoffpauir has had some major league success and can play both 1B or RF if the need ever arrises. Brad Snyder is a nice slugger, who Ive heard can play a respectable outfield, and I guess if Nady gets hurt, or they decide that Colvin would be better of playing every day in Iowa than riding the big league bench, hed be a good guy to call on. Scales, from what Ive heard of him seems the be the type of guy who can move on to coaching. I know LaHair was a near top prospect at one point, but that was many moon ago, and DuBois keeps popping up every year probably just as a favor to him. Wouldnt it be better to give some of the younger guys a chance before they fall into the AAAA catagory? Im not saying get rid of them all, but at least stop signing these guys in the off season when we have our own guys who could be given the promotion instead.

Well I am of the belief that there isn't a whole lot of difference between AAA and AA, so I don't see the harm in having a AAA team that is older. Especially since we have had a competitive big league team the past few years, as such we probably want and older AAA team in case someone gets hurt so we can plug in a guy who has played some in the big leagues.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

You're operating on the assumption that all guys in the system are there to make it to the big leagues. That's not the case at all and those guys at AAA still hold value. They are there in case Aramis goes down so we don't have to either trade for a 3B or rush up Josh Vitters. They are also there to help mentor any of the real prospects we do send to Iowa. There is no reason to start getting rid of all of them.

 

 

But how many of these guys do we need? Fuld is good to have as a backup CF if needed, and Hoffpauir has had some major league success and can play both 1B or RF if the need ever arrises. Brad Snyder is a nice slugger, who Ive heard can play a respectable outfield, and I guess if Nady gets hurt, or they decide that Colvin would be better of playing every day in Iowa than riding the big league bench, hed be a good guy to call on. Scales, from what Ive heard of him seems the be the type of guy who can move on to coaching. I know LaHair was a near top prospect at one point, but that was many moon ago, and DuBois keeps popping up every year probably just as a favor to him. Wouldnt it be better to give some of the younger guys a chance before they fall into the AAAA catagory? Im not saying get rid of them all, but at least stop signing these guys in the off season when we have our own guys who could be given the promotion instead.

Well I am of the belief that there isn't a whole lot of difference between AAA and AA, so I don't see the harm in having a AAA team that is older. Especially since we have had a competitive big league team the past few years, as such we probably want and older AAA team in case someone gets hurt so we can plug in a guy who has played some in the big leagues.

 

Its good to have some, especially those who have come up through your system, but theres not much point going out of the way to sign some of these guys instead of bringing up your own guy. I agree that when 1 time top prospects like Snyder or Diamond are let go by their teams, its always good to pick them up and see what they can do, but some of these other guys, I dont get. Dubois and LeHair, for instance seem to serve the same purpose as Hoffpauir and Snyder.

[Guest]

He didn't mean to Chicago.

 

Id be all for that. Tennesse shouldnt be in the too distant future for him. Again, my preference has been to send guys like Spencer, Guyer, and Campana to Iowa and clean house of some of the AAAA guys who are nothing more than spare parts in case of injury. I mean they'll be 25 when next season starts, and thats already on the old side for a rookie. Im not saying these guys will be stars, or even end up playing in the bigs at any point, but at some point you need to let go of some of the older guys and give them a chance at the next level. Most AAA teams have a few AAAAers, but it seems that aside from the pitching, and maybe Castillo and Barney, who project as backups at their respective postions at best, Iowa is pretty much full of them. Hoffpauir, Fuld, Scales, Dubois, LaHair, and Snyder are all at or near 30, and to a baseball prospect, thats about the same as pushing 60 for most careers.

 

What's the point of rushing guys from AA if they're not ready just to replace a AAAA player?

[Guest]

Down in Arizona yesterday, Austin Kirk had a strong outing: http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/05/07/cubs-trounce-angels-diablo-park

 

Kirk is posting a 3.95 ERA in extended spring training.

[davell]

Down in Arizona yesterday, Austin Kirk had a strong outing: http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/05/07/cubs-trounce-angels-diablo-park

 

Kirk is posting a 3.95 ERA in extended spring training.

 

Yeah, I was glad to see that. AZPhil says that the 2 guys most likely to get called up soon though are Mincone and Marcos Perez, who has been pretty unhittable, but seems to be profiling as a LOOGY already. On the hitting side of things, Chen seems like he could make it to Peoria possibly this year. Kim and Na are both hurt, Alcantara isn't hitting right now and the Bautista kid that evidently has lots of tools is K'ing much more than anything else right now. At any rate, I'm glad we have AZPhil reporting this stuff.

[Guest]

Down in Arizona yesterday, Austin Kirk had a strong outing: http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/05/07/cubs-trounce-angels-diablo-park

 

Kirk is posting a 3.95 ERA in extended spring training.

 

Yeah, I was glad to see that. AZPhil says that the 2 guys most likely to get called up soon though are Mincone and Marcos Perez, who has been pretty unhittable, but seems to be profiling as a LOOGY already. On the hitting side of things, Chen seems like he could make it to Peoria possibly this year. Kim and Na are both hurt, Alcantara isn't hitting right now and the Bautista kid that evidently has lots of tools is K'ing much more than anything else right now. At any rate, I'm glad we have AZPhil reporting this stuff.

 

No way Chen makes it to Peoria. Boise would be pushing it, and he'd only get there if his elbow is alright and he can play in the infield. He's been DHing for a few weeks now.

 

I imagine Kirk, Mincone, and Perez will be headlining Boise's roster if the latter two don't get a chance in Peoria. I hope Toby Matchulat gets healthy in time for the season.