College Basketball 2010-11

[illiniguy]

You're focusing on last year like it was the crescendo of some build up and that this year is a rebuilding aberration. The year before they missed the tournament entirely, and the year before that they lost in the first round as an 11 seed. Baylor isn't a 4 letter word anymore, and it's thanks to Drew's recruiting. But I don't think he's ever going to get his players to play at a level that consistently takes them to the next step, and his underachievement has been enormous.

 

No but as long as he keeps recruiting like this he's going to ocassionally get lucky and make deep runs like that. If you're Baylor that's pretty good. He has the #5 player in the country coming next year and the #2 player in '12 along with another top 50 kid next year.

 

I agree that, for Baylor, talent and a lucky run every now and again are pretty good. But man, Drew is not a good coach.

 

This year he has on his roster:

Sr LaceDarius Dunn (5*, #6 SG from 2007)

Jr Anthony Jones (4*, #6 SF from 2008)

Jr J'Mison Morgan (5*, #3 C from 2008)

So Nolan Dennis (4*, #16 SG from 2009)

Fr Perry Jones III (5*, #3 C from 2010)

 

and a several athletic role players. And he hasn't done squat with them, in a Big 12 with only 2 elite teams. Everyone else in the league is beatable, yet they'll struggle to get to .500.

 

Sounds like Bruce Weber.

 

I'd kill for that talent

We have a ton of talent right now. That isn't the problem.

[illiniguy]

For comparison sake

 

Purdue roster:

 

E. Moore 5* #23 RSCI

J. Johnson 4* #47 RSCI

T. Johnson 4* #86 RSCI

L. Jackson 3*

R. Smith 3*

DJ. Byrd 3*

T. Carroll 3*

K. Barlow 2*

J. Hart NR(?)

 

 

 

Wisconsin roster:

 

J. Leuer 4* #86 RSCI

K. Nankivil 4* unranked

J. Taylor 3*

J. Gasser 3*

M. Bruesewitz 3*

T. Jarmusz 3*

R. Evans 2*

 

Illinois roster:

 

J. Richmond 5* #24 RSCI

M. Leonard 4* #29 RSCI

DJ Richardson 4* #35 RSCI

B. Paul 4* #49 RSCI

D. McCamey 4* #71 RSCI

C. Head 4* #76 RSCI

M. Tisdale 4*

B. Cole 3*

Mike Davis NR (we'll call him a 3* for argument's sake)

Tyler Griffey 3*

 

Talent isn't the problem. It's the guy in charge of the talent.

[SouthSideRyan]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

[illiniguy]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

II'm just saying we actually have pretty good talent right now. Two or three years ago I would have said our talent level sucked. Next year we should add four more 4 stars and a 3. But, I get the feeling we are gonna lose a guy or two to transfers.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Ooh, do Iowa next.

[illiniguy]

Ooh, do Iowa next.

Matt Gatens 4 star......................................... :D

[Ding Dong Johnson]

nailed it

[illiniguy]

nailed it

Basaabe, or however the hell you spell it, is pretty freaking good though. Fran appears to have an eye for talented kids that are underranked.

[SouthSideRyan]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

II'm just saying we actually have pretty good talent right now. Two or three years ago I would have said our talent level sucked. Next year we should add four more 4 stars and a 3. But, I get the feeling we are gonna lose a guy or two to transfers.

 

Do you have anything concrete on the transfers, or is it the same rumblings that have been talked about by the beat writers?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

nailed it

Basaabe, or however the hell you spell it, is pretty freaking good though. Fran appears to have an eye for talented kids that are underranked.

Basabe's going to turn into a pretty damn good player. I'm optimistic about the future of the program.

[illiniguy]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

II'm just saying we actually have pretty good talent right now. Two or three years ago I would have said our talent level sucked. Next year we should add four more 4 stars and a 3. But, I get the feeling we are gonna lose a guy or two to transfers.

 

Do you have anything concrete on the transfers, or is it the same rumblings that have been talked about by the beat writers?

Have you been following on Illinois loyatly? Griffey's dad hasn't had anything good to say about Weber or his rotations at all.

[SouthSideRyan]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

II'm just saying we actually have pretty good talent right now. Two or three years ago I would have said our talent level sucked. Next year we should add four more 4 stars and a 3. But, I get the feeling we are gonna lose a guy or two to transfers.

 

Do you have anything concrete on the transfers, or is it the same rumblings that have been talked about by the beat writers?

Have you been following on Illinois loyatly? Griffey's dad hasn't had anything good to say about Weber or his rotations at all.

 

Ugh.

 

Never been there, I guess I"ll have to start.

[hawkeyecub]

nailed it

Basaabe, or however the hell you spell it, is pretty freaking good though. Fran appears to have an eye for talented kids that are underranked.

 

I'm hoping so. Cartwright and Basabe are a good start. Cartwright's best offer was Miami(OH) and now he's leading the Big Ten in assists and taking care of it fairly well.

 

He was runner-up to BYU for Jimmer. Kenny Hasbrouck was a last minute recruit after he was hired at Siena and he was a college stud who got a little run with the Heat. Ryan Rossiter is leading the nation in rebounding this year. Basabe would have been destroying the MAAC this year.

[illiniguy]

[expletive], IG must every Illinois comment be viewed through fire Weber glasses.

II'm just saying we actually have pretty good talent right now. Two or three years ago I would have said our talent level sucked. Next year we should add four more 4 stars and a 3. But, I get the feeling we are gonna lose a guy or two to transfers.

 

Do you have anything concrete on the transfers, or is it the same rumblings that have been talked about by the beat writers?

Have you been following on Illinois loyatly? Griffey's dad hasn't had anything good to say about Weber or his rotations at all.

 

Ugh.

 

Never been there, I guess I"ll have to start.

It's not bad. I was suprised that Mr. Griffey was as open as he was on bashing Bruce. Maybe during the offseason they will change their mind, but as of now I would say it doesn't look good for him coming back. I wonder if that is why they offered Max?

[Magnetic Curses]

if griffey could play at all he'd be in the rotation. and he knows that he won't play behind shaw and egwu.

[illiniguy]

nailed it

Basaabe, or however the hell you spell it, is pretty freaking good though. Fran appears to have an eye for talented kids that are underranked.

 

I'm hoping so. Cartwright and Basabe are a good start. Cartwright's best offer was Miami(OH) and now he's leading the Big Ten in assists and taking care of it fairly well.

 

He was runner-up to BYU for Jimmer. Kenny Hasbrouck was a last minute recruit after he was hired at Siena and he was a college stud who got a little run with the Heat. Ryan Rossiter is leading the nation in rebounding this year. Basabe would have been destroying the MAAC this year.

He's done a very good job in a short period of time at Iowa. I'd be excited for the future if I were an Iowa fan.

[illiniguy]

if griffey could play at all he'd be in the rotation. and he knows that he won't play behind shaw and egwu.

He can play some. Last year at times he looked really good. Wasn't it against Ohio State in the BTT he played really well? There have been times when Mike Davis was just awful, that he could have got some burn. Granted not lately as Davis has really turned it on.

[SouthSideRyan]

if griffey could play at all he'd be in the rotation. and he knows that he won't play behind shaw and egwu.

 

I'm just not real comfortable with Bielfeldt being in the rotation next year. It's already asking a lot for Shaw and Egwu to be contributors from the word go.

[Magnetic Curses]

egwu and abrams head to head in OT on espn3 right now.

[Magnetic Curses]

egwu nice skip pass as he's being triple teamed to open white boy who buries the 3.

 

abrams misses his second free throw, some st ignatius scrub hits a contested step-back fadeaway and st ignatius win by two. waiting on stats.

 

egwu finished with 24 points and looked like he was swallowing up every rebound. abrams had 18, not sure how many assists.

[Magnetic Curses]

NORTH CENTRAL COLLEGE BITCHES!

[illiniguy]

Suley have you got to see any of recruits play in person yet? My cousin has seen Shaw and says he will be a factor immediately. But, I haven't got to see any of them.

[tadowdaddy]

Pullen 3-3 for 8 pts, 10-0 lead to start the game vs. Mizzou. Nice start for the Cats!

[tadowdaddy]

And Mizzou comes back and ties it up. Gonna be a good game.

[da bears]

Mizzou is such a horrible road team. Bunch of pussies.