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there was also that other guy

 

I know who you were referring to, the Lincecum thing also just popped into my head.

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actually bochy was worse though, since the giants weren't even playing for anything. at least we knew why dusty did it. what bochy did with lincecum was pretty inexplicable.
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it is only a matter of time before teams figure out that the best strategy against him is to foul as many pitches off as you can, shrink your strike zone and get him to 100 pitches in the 5th or 6th and he'll break when his manager consistently pushes him to 130 to get him to the 8th.

 

strasburg will not last pitching the way he does now, it's just not sustainable. his elbow is going to jump out of his arm if he has to throw that curveball consistently.

 

he's pitched 12 innings you weirdo

 

you haveta start somewhere, loser

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actually bochy was worse though, since the giants weren't even playing for anything. at least we knew why dusty did it. what bochy did with lincecum was pretty inexplicable.

 

lincecum is different, though. i have the feeling that that guy could throw 200 pitches and not be the worse for wear. his mechanics are just too perfect. at 5-10 you don't have much room for wasted energy, everything has to be fluid in order to throw so hard and so well. it's why his dad made the pitching coach at washington promise to leave his delivery alone before he'd allow him to sign an loi.

 

strasburg is in wood/prior mold. lots of energy moving in conflicting directions, enormous legs putting thousands of pounds of pressure on a lagging elbow. unsustainable curveball.

 

i give him 200 innings before his first major career-impacting injury.

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I know this is kind of over the top after just a handful of professional outings, but he looks like he combines the best of Wood (crazy movement, velocity) with Prior (ability to locate EVERYTHING). That is terrifying.

 

taking a step back from the knob-slobbing, wood's crazy movement caused his elbow to run down the street screaming and vowing never to return and he had to go get it and punch it in the face and threaten it with a terror attack for it to agree to come back, and when it did, no more slurvy.

 

and the fact that prior put all of his pitches around the plate eventually led to hitters employing the foul ball strategy against him. his location didn't help his pitch counts through 5. if you can't hit him, break him.

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actually bochy was worse though, since the giants weren't even playing for anything. at least we knew why dusty did it. what bochy did with lincecum was pretty inexplicable.

 

lincecum is different, though. i have the feeling that that guy could throw 200 pitches and not be the worse for wear. his mechanics are just too perfect. at 5-10 you don't have much room for wasted energy, everything has to be fluid in order to throw so hard and so well. it's why his dad made the pitching coach at washington promise to leave his delivery alone before he'd allow him to sign an loi.

 

strasburg is in wood/prior mold. lots of energy moving in conflicting directions, enormous legs putting thousands of pounds of pressure on a lagging elbow. unsustainable curveball.

 

i give him 200 innings before his first major career-impacting injury.

 

lincecum has already lost velocity and the knock on him his whole career, even pre-draft, has been poor mechanics and too much movement in his delivery

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actually bochy was worse though, since the giants weren't even playing for anything. at least we knew why dusty did it. what bochy did with lincecum was pretty inexplicable.

 

lincecum is different, though. i have the feeling that that guy could throw 200 pitches and not be the worse for wear. his mechanics are just too perfect. at 5-10 you don't have much room for wasted energy, everything has to be fluid in order to throw so hard and so well. it's why his dad made the pitching coach at washington promise to leave his delivery alone before he'd allow him to sign an loi.

 

strasburg is in wood/prior mold. lots of energy moving in conflicting directions, enormous legs putting thousands of pounds of pressure on a lagging elbow. unsustainable curveball.

 

i give him 200 innings before his first major career-impacting injury.

 

lincecum has already lost velocity and the knock on him his whole career, even pre-draft, has been poor mechanics and too much movement in his delivery

 

I don't know that I'd say his mechanics are "poor", but they're certainly unorthodox.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say Lincecum has "bad" mechanics, but I've definitely never heard anyone besides sulley describe them as "perfect." That's weird.

 

I just hope Strasburg becomes sulley's new nemesis a la LeBron.

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actually bochy was worse though, since the giants weren't even playing for anything. at least we knew why dusty did it. what bochy did with lincecum was pretty inexplicable.

 

lincecum is different, though. i have the feeling that that guy could throw 200 pitches and not be the worse for wear. his mechanics are just too perfect. at 5-10 you don't have much room for wasted energy, everything has to be fluid in order to throw so hard and so well. it's why his dad made the pitching coach at washington promise to leave his delivery alone before he'd allow him to sign an loi.

 

strasburg is in wood/prior mold. lots of energy moving in conflicting directions, enormous legs putting thousands of pounds of pressure on a lagging elbow. unsustainable curveball.

 

i give him 200 innings before his first major career-impacting injury.

 

lincecum has already lost velocity and the knock on him his whole career, even pre-draft, has been poor mechanics and too much movement in his delivery

 

not really. he definitely looks weird, a while ago, prior's mechanics were said to be perfect but obviously he was putting to much pressure on his arm by using his legs.

 

lincecum's delivery looks weird, but his release point is consistent, he doesn't put a ton of strain on his arm though he does make the inverted-L in his delivery. essentially, the motion is unorthodox, but it ends up being more efficient because it takes the pressure off his arm and allows him to get more on his pitches. the guy has a seven-foot stride, that's unreal for a guy who's 5-10.

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He might no hit the White Sox tonight.

 

or give up a single to the first batter, either way...

 

7 IP, 1 R, 10 k's Another strong performance.

 

just 85 pitches

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He might no hit the White Sox tonight.

 

or give up a single to the first batter, either way...

 

7 IP, 1 R, 10 k's Another strong performance.

 

just 85 pitches

 

He's very efficient.

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Paul Konerko agrees with us saying Strasburg reminds him of Prior.

 

"Honestly, his stuff reminds me a lot of (Mark) Prior when he first came up," Konerko said. "But he throws a tick or two harder, and the change-up is what puts him over the top. I don't know what he calls it, but it's like a split or change-up, and that's a whole different ball of wax when he can do that, when you're throwing that to righties and lefties. Command is great, stuff is great.

 

"He's the whole package. I still got a fastball to hit in every at-bat. He's a power guy, and you have to get it going but he's the whole package. There's nothing he doesn't have. It's a matter of hopefully when you get him, he has an off-night. But stuff-wise, command-wise, poise-wise, you name it - you can go down the list of what you want in a starting pitcher - he's got it all. I wish him well, and we don't have to face him anymore." Konerko was just getting started.

 

"He's going to throw above-fastball, above-curve, above-change-up on every pitch. And most hitters look for fastball and try to get that, and his stuff is off the charts on all three pitches. He's like a (Justin) Verlander, (Zack) Greinke, Felix Hernandez, where you know going into it what you're up against, but that doesn't mean they can't be beat.

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guys were gushing about wood and prior, especially prior, calling him the greatest pitcher in college history and a future hall of famer.

 

once batters understand that the only way to beat strasburg is to stretch him out, they will start stretching him out.

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