Cubs hire Greg Maddux as special assistant to the GM

[Sammy Sofa]

And Sandberg has killed a LOT of people.

[jersey cubs fan]

And Sandberg has killed a LOT of people.

 

Not personally, but he has ordered the hits.

[Sammy Sofa]

He knows how to keep it clean.

 

Just be sure to let him wet his beak.

[erik316wttn]

And Sandberg has killed a LOT of people.

 

Not personally, but he has ordered the hits.

 

Anyone heard from Rafael Palmerio lately?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

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Greg Maddux is the newest member of the Cubs' front office. Old 31 plans on making at least one significant change to the organization, according Rick Sutcliffe, via this TCR tweet.

 

Sutcliffe on XM said he's hearing that with the hire of Maddux, Cubs plan to push for minors to learn how to pitch deep into games

 

 

Well, Maddog, good call. The Cubs' minor league starters rank dead last in making it to the sixth inning.

 

Going back to 2007, I found the rate at which each team in minors (those leagues the Cubs participate in, from short season A on up) worked their starters past the fifth inning. The results speak for themselves.

[jersey cubs fan]

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Greg Maddux is the newest member of the Cubs' front office. Old 31 plans on making at least one significant change to the organization, according Rick Sutcliffe, via this TCR tweet.

 

Sutcliffe on XM said he's hearing that with the hire of Maddux, Cubs plan to push for minors to learn how to pitch deep into games

 

 

Well, Maddog, good call. The Cubs' minor league starters rank dead last in making it to the sixth inning.

 

Going back to 2007, I found the rate at which each team in minors (those leagues the Cubs participate in, from short season A on up) worked their starters past the fifth inning. The results speak for themselves.

 

How do results speak for themselves. The Cubs have been a good pitching team for 10 years. If what they are doing is wrong, that shouldn't be true.

[shnsajax]

He does look really smart when he is wearing glasses.

[Clem Fandango]

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Greg Maddux is the newest member of the Cubs' front office. Old 31 plans on making at least one significant change to the organization, according Rick Sutcliffe, via this TCR tweet.

 

Sutcliffe on XM said he's hearing that with the hire of Maddux, Cubs plan to push for minors to learn how to pitch deep into games

 

 

Well, Maddog, good call. The Cubs' minor league starters rank dead last in making it to the sixth inning.

 

Going back to 2007, I found the rate at which each team in minors (those leagues the Cubs participate in, from short season A on up) worked their starters past the fifth inning. The results speak for themselves.

 

How do results speak for themselves. The Cubs have been a good pitching team for 10 years. If what they are doing is wrong, that shouldn't be true.

 

Well with all due respect they're not really talking about teaching young pitchers how to pitch well, they're talking about trying to teach young pitchers to increase their stamina. The number they list in the article are pretty damning in that regard, but like you said it's not really a huge important statistic considering we've gotten solid production out of our farm system in the pitching department for years. Stamina doesn't equal productivity.

 

But it would be nice if we had some pitchers come up through the system who were not only good, but durable with high endurance as well. I kinda like the approach.

[Guest]

I'd be interested to know the percentage of pitchers who undergo serious surgery in the Cubs system compared to other systems during that horizon. Is the lighter workload helping to keep injuries down?

 

This would give us some measure of whether or not the lighter workload is potentially having a positive impact.

 

Also, are the Cubs selecting a different profile of pitcher that needs protecting more than other teams? Perhaps more young pitchers, pitchers with injury history, pitchers being converted from relievers to starters, position players making transition to pitcher, etc?

 

This would give us some idea if there are other causal factors at work that offer an alternative explanation for the data.

[XZero771679666304]

Knowing Maddux, my feeling is that "going deeper into games" is probably going to be addressed as an economy of pitches issue rather than a stamina issue. This is a problem many Cubs pitchers have had.

[Guest]

Knowing Maddux, my feeling is that "going deeper into games" is probably going to be addressed as an economy of pitches issue rather than a stamina issue. This is a problem many Cubs pitchers have had.

For pitchers that have the stuff and the command to do so, pounding the zone is a great thing to do. For pitchers that either don't have the movement, deception or velocity, it's a bad idea unless you can consistently put it on the edge of the zone each time.

 

Maddux is one of the all time greats because he had movement, deception, velocity (when younger) and incredible command. Not many pitchers have these things, which is why they cannot pound the zone the same way.

[XZero771679666304]

Knowing Maddux, my feeling is that "going deeper into games" is probably going to be addressed as an economy of pitches issue rather than a stamina issue. This is a problem many Cubs pitchers have had.

For pitchers that have the stuff and the command to do so, pounding the zone is a great thing to do. For pitchers that either don't have the movement, deception or velocity, it's a bad idea unless you can consistently put it on the edge of the zone each time.

 

Maddux is one of the all time greats because he had movement, deception, velocity (when younger) and incredible command. Not many pitchers have these things, which is why they cannot pound the zone the same way.

 

I understand that, but what is frustrating is when plus stuff guys don't pound the zone. We've had our share of that, and I'm willing to bet that it has much to do with no one tempering their desire to strike batters out instead of economize. You can chalk some of that up to simple command issues, but many times you see guys like Z trying to K guys instead of just getting them out.