New League Info...

[Hosak8]

Hi fellas!

 

Happy to report that the new league is up, and that you should have received an email inviting you in. IF you are asked for a password, it is a1s2d3f4.

 

The scoring system is taking shape, and Mooch has offered to co-commish the league with me. I will say up front that I will still make you absurd trade offers, but as a commish, I will be active and fair, and always listening to how we can improve the league.

 

One thing for us to work on is rosters. With so many new players, we simply cannot just give away abandoned teams (especially since we are adding up to four new ones.) However, I know that some of you have worked really hard on your rosters, and I want to allow some of that work to be rewarded. Here are my thoughts on how:

 

1. We cannot allow the current draft order to be carried over. Simply does not work. All teams will regain all draft picks in 2009. 2010 will be reviewed, in case any players are kept that affected 2010.

 

2. I am suggesting that every team get to keep 5 Major leaguers and 2 Minor leaguers.

 

3. All keeper rules will remain the same. The 1800 point total will likely change as the scoring system makes it obsolete, and there will be a limit to number of players who can be kept (so that teams like Dawg Pound don't have 33 keepers as he did...), but we will all determine that together, by vote.

 

4. If you have scoring suggestions, please PM me with them.

 

5. This league will take shape quickly, so I will need your input quickly on things like your roster, your draft availability, scoring suggestions, etc. Please let me know soon!

 

Thanks! Looking forward to a new season. I will get you payment info ASAP. It will be $14 each. The reason is that it will allow us to use the extra this year and next to give the 4 Playoff teams next year free entry in 2010. THis is something that a couple of you suggested, and I think it is a wonderful idea. You can paypal me or send cash or check. Let me know how you want to pay, and I will get you the info.

 

I will also ask about cleaning up this forum and granting access to new members.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Hosak8

[Hosak8]

Another question: If we have 16 teams (distinct possibility) would you rather have 4 divisions with champions only making playoffs, or 2 divisions with champions and 2 wild cards make it in?

[moochpuppy]

First off Hosak, I would like to say thank you for getting the ball rolling with this new league. I know for a lot of us it has been a very trying 12-18 month period in our lives with the way of the economy and I know for me this league is a great escape from that and I look forward to it all offseason. Your efforts are much appreciated and by me co-commissioning, it's the least I could do. Now on to the nitty gritty:

 

1. We cannot allow the current draft order to be carried over. Simply does not work. All teams will regain all draft picks in 2009. 2010 will be reviewed, in case any players are kept that affected 2010.

 

While I will miss having the #1 and #3 overall pick, I agree with this. I also think the slate should be wiped clean for 2010 as well (only two picks had been traded).

 

2. I am suggesting that every team get to keep 5 Major leaguers and 2 Minor leaguers.

 

I also agree here with 5 major leaguers (either exempt or non-exempt) but I think we could keep more minor leaguers. Maybe 4 or 5. These moves are going to throw a lot more talent back into the pool.

 

3. All keeper rules will remain the same. The 1800 point total will likely change as the scoring system makes it obsolete, and there will be a limit to number of players who can be kept (so that teams like Dawg Pound don't have 33 keepers as he did...), but we will all determine that together, by vote.

 

So if I understand you correctly here, after the end of the 2009 season we will have exempt and non exempt players with a new "CAP" and a limit to the # of exempt players we can keep. Exempt players will still be determined based on 130 AB and 50 IP.

 

4. If you have scoring suggestions, please PM me with them.

 

Once I get logged into the new league I will take a look and make some suggestions.

 

5. This league will take shape quickly, so I will need your input quickly on things like your roster, your draft availability, scoring suggestions, etc. Please let me know soon!

 

I basically know who my keepers will be and my minor leaguers (just think we should keep more than 2). I can draft in the evenings anytime after 7pm EST Monday through Friday and anytime before 4pm EST on Saturday's (NO SUNDAY'S PLEASE).

 

 

Thanks! Looking forward to a new season. I will get you payment info ASAP. It will be $14 each. The reason is that it will allow us to use the extra this year and next to give the 4 Playoff teams next year free entry in 2010. THis is something that a couple of you suggested, and I think it is a wonderful idea. You can paypal me or send cash or check. Let me know how you want to pay, and I will get you the info.

 

I like the idea of the winner getting to play for free the following year. I will be paying by paypal. I will be paying for myself and DSB and then he'll just reimburse me the next time I see him.

 

I will also ask about cleaning up this forum and granting access to new members.

 

Talk to NCCubfan. He was very helpfull the last time we added someone to this forum.

[moochpuppy]

Another question: If we have 16 teams (distinct possibility) would you rather have 4 divisions with champions only making playoffs, or 2 divisions with champions and 2 wild cards make it in?

 

I would prefer 2 divisions of 8 teams each with the top two teams in each division going to the playoffs. I think 4 team divisions are too small.

[Hosak8]

Mooch...

 

I like the idea of keeping 4 Minor Leaguers, but am afraid that 5 would be a few too many. Not by much, but enough that the new guys start with a disadvantage in that area. So, can we settle on 4?

 

One other point- on the two divisions. My only concern with 2 Divisions is that Top 2 from each hurts us when the 2nd team in one division is worse than the 4th in the other. The reason I like 4 divisions is that you take ONLY champions and no Wild Cards. Even if you win the worst division, you have still won something. I'd really like for a couple of others to chime in with a vote here. I can def be swayed, I just like the idea of champs moving on and all others staying home.

 

I have you set up with commissioner duties. We just need to get everyone checked in and paid up. Setting rosters pre-draft and then filling new teams rosters will be a bit tricky, especially without having everyone on NSBB. We've got our work cut out for us in that respect.

 

Let's set a deadline of mid-next week for current owners to have their rosters ready, and we'll get the new rosters put together before setting a draft date.

[roadster]

Mooch...

 

I like the idea of keeping 4 Minor Leaguers, but am afraid that 5 would be a few too many. Not by much, but enough that the new guys start with a disadvantage in that area. So, can we settle on 4?

 

One other point- on the two divisions. My only concern with 2 Divisions is that Top 2 from each hurts us when the 2nd team in one division is worse than the 4th in the other. The reason I like 4 divisions is that you take ONLY champions and no Wild Cards. Even if you win the worst division, you have still won something. I'd really like for a couple of others to chime in with a vote here. I can def be swayed, I just like the idea of champs moving on and all others staying home.

 

I have you set up with commissioner duties. We just need to get everyone checked in and paid up. Setting rosters pre-draft and then filling new teams rosters will be a bit tricky, especially without having everyone on NSBB. We've got our work cut out for us in that respect.

 

Let's set a deadline of mid-next week for current owners to have their rosters ready, and we'll get the new rosters put together before setting a draft date.

 

Here are my suggestions:

 

1) ok with reseting draft picks...how do you determine draft order?

2) 5 keepers (exempt and non-exempt)...and 5 minor leaguers...any player with less than 130 AB and 50 IP is considered minor leaguers

3) i actually like 3 divisions with each division winners plus a wild card going to the playoffs...if there is a tie, best record, then best record against each other, then division record, etc.

4) i will pay by paypal

5) i can draft anytime as long as i know the schedule ahead of time

[Hosak8]

Mooch...

 

I like the idea of keeping 4 Minor Leaguers, but am afraid that 5 would be a few too many. Not by much, but enough that the new guys start with a disadvantage in that area. So, can we settle on 4?

 

One other point- on the two divisions. My only concern with 2 Divisions is that Top 2 from each hurts us when the 2nd team in one division is worse than the 4th in the other. The reason I like 4 divisions is that you take ONLY champions and no Wild Cards. Even if you win the worst division, you have still won something. I'd really like for a couple of others to chime in with a vote here. I can def be swayed, I just like the idea of champs moving on and all others staying home.

 

I have you set up with commissioner duties. We just need to get everyone checked in and paid up. Setting rosters pre-draft and then filling new teams rosters will be a bit tricky, especially without having everyone on NSBB. We've got our work cut out for us in that respect.

 

Let's set a deadline of mid-next week for current owners to have their rosters ready, and we'll get the new rosters put together before setting a draft date.

 

Here are my suggestions:

 

1) ok with reseting draft picks...how do you determine draft order?

2) 5 keepers (exempt and non-exempt)...and 5 minor leaguers...any player with less than 130 AB and 50 IP is considered minor leaguers

3) i actually like 3 divisions with each division winners plus a wild card going to the playoffs...if there is a tie, best record, then best record against each other, then division record, etc.

4) i will pay by paypal

5) i can draft anytime as long as i know the schedule ahead of time

 

Great suggestions, Roady. Thanks for the input. It is 2-1 on 5 Minor leaguers, so it looks like 5 may be the number we end up with. Again, another sell for a smaller amount is that the new teams' draft will be shorter and we can get to the league draft more quickly, but I am fine with 5 if that's what everyone wants to do.

 

The draft is pretty randomly generated. CBS does that for us.

 

3 divisions, huh? Would it bother anyone else that one division would have more teams than the others, or is that just Obsessive/Compulsive me?

 

Once my paypal has been updated, I will give you the info. With 16 teams, we can do $13 bucks and that, along with a similar number next year should buy 4 Playoff owners a free entry next year. Draft date will be set once all teams are legal and the new guys have had their "expansion draft."

[moochpuppy]

You got thoughts on the other forum stuff that I suggested? Also, if you can get onto DSB and Jiddy about getting signed in, that would be helpful. Nick is out, unless we need him. Not sure about the money and also not sure he can keep up with minor leaguers enough. I want to set a deadline for people to claim their teams, and if they do not, we delete those teams and either shrink to 14 teams or give one team back to Nick.

 

Hit me up over in the secret forum. :ninja:

 

DSB has told me he'll get signed up tonight. I sent Jiddy an e-mail to get signed up ASAP.

 

Two, three or four divisions is fine with me. Two divisions of eight would make the games between division rivals more meaningful though. As far there could be a better team missing the playoffs in Division 1 but that happens in sports. Look at the NFL this season. Patriots at 11-5 sit home while the 8-8 Chargers go to the dance. This could also happen in a 4 division system.

 

Let's set the deadline for keepers next Thursday 2/26 (since Wednesday is Ash Wednesday).

[moochpuppy]

I am getting this error when trying to join the league:

 

You have been invited to join this league, however we can't seem to locate your information within the league database. Please contact the commissioner of your league and ask him/her to re-invite you.

[Hosak8]

I am getting this error when trying to join the league:

 

You have been invited to join this league, however we can't seem to locate your information within the league database. Please contact the commissioner of your league and ask him/her to re-invite you.

 

Should be fixed. Dustin somehow took your spot instead of his own. I changed his spot back to himself, and now you should be fine to fit in.

[moochpuppy]

Should be fixed. Dustin somehow took your spot instead of his own. I changed his spot back to himself, and now you should be fine to fit in.

 

I'm in.

[mhuber92211]

anything works for me. just tell me what to do and I will be there.

 

I echo the thanks to Hosak.

[CubbieBum]

I vote two divisions, however is there anyway for the two wildcards be best record regardless of division? If so that's my vote because if the top three teams are in one division then they all get to go so it limits the possibility of someone being screwed.

 

I vote 2 minor leaguers. The reason being new owners will be at a disadvantage due to keepers already allowing for less minor keepers gives newbies a chance of getting stars of the future and makeup for that disadvantage.

 

 

 

Oh and I will be paying with paypal. Hosak just let me know your account.

[CubbieBum]

Also when can we find out about draft order?

[Hosak8]

Also when can we find out about draft order?

 

It has been generated by CBS, but until everyone has joined (still awaiting 2 owners) and paid, it's not finalized. You should know by Friday of this week.

 

Have you voted on fees and payout yet? Once that poll is closed, everyone can pay. Until it has closed, there is no way to know how much it will cost.

[CubbieBum]

Also when can we find out about draft order?

 

It has been generated by CBS, but until everyone has joined (still awaiting 2 owners) and paid, it's not finalized. You should know by Friday of this week.

 

Have you voted on fees and payout yet? Once that poll is closed, everyone can pay. Until it has closed, there is no way to know how much it will cost.

 

Yeah I was the second one to vote.

[moochpuppy]

I vote two divisions, however is there anyway for the two wildcards be best record regardless of division? If so that's my vote because if the top three teams are in one division then they all get to go so it limits the possibility of someone being screwed.

 

If we go with the two division format I am okay with the 3rd and 4th best team going to the playoffs instead of one from each division. If we did go with a 3 division set up as was suggested that would eliminate this problem, same with a 4 division set up.

 

 

I vote 2 minor leaguers. The reason being new owners will be at a disadvantage due to keepers already allowing for less minor keepers gives newbies a chance of getting stars of the future and makeup for that disadvantage.

 

This will not be a big disadvantage. There are possibly 8 carryover teams (7 confirmed) which would total 32 minors leaguers. That still leaves 18 of the top 50 prospects and 68 of the top 100.

[Hosak8]

The more I think about it, the more I like a 3 division setup. Put an extra team in one division and call it a day? 3 Division winners and one wild card team make the playoffs?

 

Wild card is team with best overall record who does not win their division. First tie breaker is head to head. Second is total points.

[The Logan]

I've got lost o' questions, as this is my first keeper league, so please bear with me here if I sound rather... novice, if you will

 

1) I'm a bit confused as I thought this was a new league being formed, I had no clue it was already going on for a while now. Did I take over a team that dropped out or am I taking the place of an "expansion team" if you will?

 

2) I notice lots of other previous teams are submitting keepers, what does this mean for the newcomers. Do we have keepers to choose from a previous team we're taking over or are we, as a league, starting fresh and doing another draft? I'm really confused on that point. I'm noticing lots of teams submitting keepers and/or keeper rules and I have no players (as far as I can tell), so what does that mean for us newcomers? I'm seeing lots of players on their rosters that I was quite looking forward to putting in my draft strategy that I'm sure they will keep, so what does that mean for us?

 

3) If I'm reading this properly on here, am I correct to assume that CBS doesn't have a minor league roster, and all full rosters are kept track of here for the future when prospects and minor leaguers are called up? Also, if that's the case, are all transactions done through this forum and then carried out by the commish in the CBS league to avoid other teams from picking up players on their own despite them being on another team's expanded roster? I hope that made sense as a question.

 

That's all I can think of right now. I'm used to 5x5 leagues, never played a point system, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of it with no problem. Regardless of all that I'm really really looking forward to this. I've been dying to get in on a league such as this for a while now. Thanks for letting me be apart of it, and apologies if I end up sounding like an amateur with the league over the next month or two as I get accustomed to it.

 

Thanks!

[cbbryan]

4 minor leaguers isn't enough IMO. I'd go at least 10.

 

Also, is the MLB keepers based on points or just 5 random players?

[Hosak8]

4 minor leaguers isn't enough IMO. I'd go at least 10.

 

Also, is the MLB keepers based on points or just 5 random players?

 

Existing teams get to keep 4. Our rosters will hold 8. ONce everyone's rosters are set, you will get to keep 8 at all times.

[Hosak8]

I've got lost o' questions, as this is my first keeper league, so please bear with me here if I sound rather... novice, if you will

 

1) I'm a bit confused as I thought this was a new league being formed, I had no clue it was already going on for a while now. Did I take over a team that dropped out or am I taking the place of an "expansion team" if you will?

 

2) I notice lots of other previous teams are submitting keepers, what does this mean for the newcomers. Do we have keepers to choose from a previous team we're taking over or are we, as a league, starting fresh and doing another draft? I'm really confused on that point. I'm noticing lots of teams submitting keepers and/or keeper rules and I have no players (as far as I can tell), so what does that mean for us newcomers? I'm seeing lots of players on their rosters that I was quite looking forward to putting in my draft strategy that I'm sure they will keep, so what does that mean for us?

 

3) If I'm reading this properly on here, am I correct to assume that CBS doesn't have a minor league roster, and all full rosters are kept track of here for the future when prospects and minor leaguers are called up? Also, if that's the case, are all transactions done through this forum and then carried out by the commish in the CBS league to avoid other teams from picking up players on their own despite them being on another team's expanded roster? I hope that made sense as a question.

 

That's all I can think of right now. I'm used to 5x5 leagues, never played a point system, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of it with no problem. Regardless of all that I'm really really looking forward to this. I've been dying to get in on a league such as this for a while now. Thanks for letting me be apart of it, and apologies if I end up sounding like an amateur with the league over the next month or two as I get accustomed to it.

 

Thanks!

 

Original message explained that it was a league that had already existed but that the former commish was not renewing. You are taking the role of expansion team, as are the other 7 new owners.

 

The 8 teams who are continuing get to keep 5 of their MLB players (without concern for points) and 4 of their MiLB players. Each team had 10 minor leaguers, so this is a significant cut for each of us. Some teams had worked their keepers to keep u to around 16 or 17 players (new rules will change this, but you can ee that that was a significant drop for some of us- myself included).

 

Your third question/assumption is not correct. CBS allows us to keep Minor leaguers, and all transactions are done on there. This forum is just a nice reseource to have during the offseason when you will have to name keepers, want to discuss trades, etc....

[Hosak8]

I've got lost o' questions, as this is my first keeper league, so please bear with me here if I sound rather... novice, if you will

 

1) I'm a bit confused as I thought this was a new league being formed, I had no clue it was already going on for a while now. Did I take over a team that dropped out or am I taking the place of an "expansion team" if you will?

 

2) I notice lots of other previous teams are submitting keepers, what does this mean for the newcomers. Do we have keepers to choose from a previous team we're taking over or are we, as a league, starting fresh and doing another draft? I'm really confused on that point. I'm noticing lots of teams submitting keepers and/or keeper rules and I have no players (as far as I can tell), so what does that mean for us newcomers? I'm seeing lots of players on their rosters that I was quite looking forward to putting in my draft strategy that I'm sure they will keep, so what does that mean for us?

 

3) If I'm reading this properly on here, am I correct to assume that CBS doesn't have a minor league roster, and all full rosters are kept track of here for the future when prospects and minor leaguers are called up? Also, if that's the case, are all transactions done through this forum and then carried out by the commish in the CBS league to avoid other teams from picking up players on their own despite them being on another team's expanded roster? I hope that made sense as a question.

 

That's all I can think of right now. I'm used to 5x5 leagues, never played a point system, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of it with no problem. Regardless of all that I'm really really looking forward to this. I've been dying to get in on a league such as this for a while now. Thanks for letting me be apart of it, and apologies if I end up sounding like an amateur with the league over the next month or two as I get accustomed to it.

 

Thanks!

 

On Number 2: The teams who are carry overs get to submit their list of 5 keepers and 4 Minor League keepers. Some time before the draft, all new teams will get to have an expansion draft, selecting 5 MLB players and 4 MiLB players. ONce this has been completed, everyone will be on the same ground, and we will hold our draft. Because half of this league has been working on their rosters for years, and this new league formed out of that league, it was only fair to allow old owners to select keepers and not make them start from scratch.

 

New teams are NOT taking over old rosters. Every player from those rosters (which includes some HUGE names) will go into the expansion draft, and then into the league draft if not selected. Same for Minor Leaguers. Much of this is covered in other messages in this forum, so lease look around a bit. You might find answers already posted. If not, feel free to ask as many questions as you have.

[moochpuppy]

The more I think about it, the more I like a 3 division setup. Put an extra team in one division and call it a day? 3 Division winners and one wild card team make the playoffs?

 

Wild card is team with best overall record who does not win their division. First tie breaker is head to head. Second is total points.

 

I have no problem with this.

[cbbryan]

4 minor leaguers isn't enough IMO. I'd go at least 10.

 

Also, is the MLB keepers based on points or just 5 random players?

 

Existing teams get to keep 4. Our rosters will hold 8. ONce everyone's rosters are set, you will get to keep 8 at all times.

 

So you have to drop minor leaguers at the end of the year? Why not just get to keep all 8?